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3. Rapid Documentation of Historic Resources (Episode 3)

Transcript

Welcome to the Preservation Technology Podcast. I’m Kevin Ammons and today we are talking to Dr. Barrett Kennedy, professor of architecture at Louisiana State University College of Design.

Kevin Ammons: Dr. Kennedy is working with NCPTT to develop a strategy for the rapid documentation of historic resources. Welcome to podcast, Barrett.

Barrett Kennedy: Hey Kevin. It’s good to be here.

Kevin Ammons: Last time I saw you, Barrett, you were hovering precariously about 30 feet over Front Street in Natchitoches with a camera. Was that related to this new technique?

Barrett Kennedy: Yeah, that’s right, Kevin, but as I recall, it was your folks at the center that got me sky high over Cane River Lake. It was all strictly in the line of duty I guess, but let me you, it was a perspective rarely equaled in Louisiana.

But the project that we’re talking about involved improvements to stabilize the road bed, upgrade utilities and add some barrier free access components to Front Street. It was a classic conflict of interest between preservation and progress, and the work threatened the historic integrity of the street with its distinctive pattern brickwork. Natchitoches was looking for a way to quickly, accurately, and of course inexpensively document the existing appearance of about 4 blocks of historic brick paving. Project was set and on ready and time was of the essence, so we really were coming in on the last moment.

I’d been working on a rapid documentation project with the NCPTT, so on behalf of the city and the Cane River Heritage area, the center approached me with the Front Street problem. Well we were glad to rise to the challenge and we decided to use some technologies that we’d been working with, which were GPS enabled digital cameras as a means to comprehensively document all of the paving in the project zone.

What we did was place reference targets on the street surface and used a bucket lift, or a cherry picker, to position a photographer at an elevation of about 40 feet above the street, and then we systematically moved the lift along the street, capturing high resolution digital imagery. We were then able to take those images and load them into a GIS system and create a dimensionally accurate, spatial photo mosaic of the Front Street brick work.

The images were also loaded into Google Earth to facilitate access to that photographic record. The photo mosaic could then be used to guide the process of relaying the historic brick and replicating the distinctive patterns once all of the other roadway improvements were completed. Kevin, I understand that the finished street work looks good and the project represents a successful balance between preservation and safety.

Kevin Ammons: Your current project with NCPTT is to develop and test geospatially enabled digital video documentation. Wow, that’s a mouthful. Can you walk us through it?

Barrett Kennedy: Well, I’ll try, Kevin. You’re right, it is a mouthful, but conceptually it’s pretty simple. It’s a natural progression from the use of GPS enabled still photography that I was just talking about.

The difference is that we are substituting a digital video stream for the still imagery. In this sense, the geospatial video refers to the melding of video and GPS technologies. The data collection equipment that we use enables us to embed a GPS data stream, or in other words, location data, on one of the audio tracks of the digital video tape. We can still include a recording of commentary or other environmental sounds on the other audio track as a supplement to that audio/video record.

Kevin Ammons: What exactly is spatial data?

Barrett Kennedy: Well the term spatial data indicates data that references location relative to space and time. So it’s a geographical construct of latitude, longitude, altitude, and date, for example.

The spatial reference allows us to use a GIS system to manage multiple, diverse layers of information, in relationship with a global relation or physical place. Maps are a useful and familiar way of representing and visualizing these multidimensional layers of information in a GIS system. For example, Google Maps and Google Earth are components of a simple, user-friendly spatial data management system.

Kevin Ammons: How did this collaborative effort with NCPTT begin?

Barrett Kennedy: Well, Kevin the operational premise is that documentation is fundamental to successful heritage conservation, and accurate fulsome documentation is essential for the integration for heritage conservation into a broad range of resource management and planning activities, particularly in places that are subject to a high risk of human induced disaster.

So, what we were looking for was a means to rapidly and inexpensively capture the data that characterizes large areas, for example, extensive cultural landscapes, streetscapes, and historic districts. Examples of this might include Cane River National Heritage Area or one of New Orleans’ many National Register historic districts.

Well, we’ve worked with the NCPTT on several internet related information management and distance learning projects over the past ten years or so and felt like the center would be a natural partner for this project. Consequently we applied for and received support from the Preservation Training and Technology grants program to explore how emerging spatially enabled technologies could advance resource documentation methods and facilitate better informed heritage stewardship. Importantly, in a place like Louisiana, this also means informed disaster planning and preparedness.

So we were just mobilizing our project in August of 2005 when Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana and Mississippi, closely followed by Hurricane Rita. So what was conceived as a research exercise to explore techniques for rapid documentation in anticipation of a disaster became an all too real incident response and mitigation challenge. Well, the U.S., as you know, never encountered a disaster of the magnitude of Katrina.

In the midst of the chaotic response effort we recognized that timely access to spatial data was absolutely essential in responding to the disaster, and as a consequence we developed the LSU GIS Clearing House to collect, index, and disseminate spatially referenced data to a variety of federal, state, and local agencies.

Kevin, I should mention that our team received a national award from the Association of American Geographers for these efforts, but to continue as we indexed the assorted spatial sets, we were frustrated that field collected data was inconsistent and too often incomplete and unreliable.

This affirmed our original premise that a new method for rapid spatially enabled data collection would improve the consistency and reliability of the data and make it more useful not just in disaster planning, but also, as we came to realize, in disaster response and mitigation efforts. We felt that the digital video was a key element in our approach because of its low-cost data richness and rapid technological advancement. So, working with a research partner from the University of Ireland, we acquired a prototype GPS enabled video system that was being developed for roadway and pipeline inspection applications.

We configured an inexpensive data collection system on this foundation that consisted of three video cameras with wide angle lenses and mounted these on suction cups on a vehicle so that they recorded the view perpendicular to the video, that is, each side of the road way and the road straight ahead as we moved down the roadway at about 15 to 20 miles an hour. We began testing this configuration in January of 2006 in the lower 9th Ward of New Orleans, which was one of the areas most profoundly impacted by Hurricane Katrina and Rita.

Kevin, at the same time we also explored the use of spatially enabled PDAs and digital still photography so that we could deploy mobile digital survey forms that ensured data consistency and rapid data transfer to legacy GIS systems. This represents the interactive data entry component that we’re currently working to integrate with the spatial video system.

Kevin Ammons: How is this technique different from traditional documentation strategies?

Barrett Kennedy: The fundamental difference that we’re talking about here is that we’re working with a digital environment from the outset, whether with a spatially enabled video, or the PDAs and the still imagery.

Obviously, this approach is going to be faster, far more robust, and more scalable than using paper forms, with the ability as well to capture spatial data, video and audio commentary, and other kinds of data in a digital environment.

Importantly, where effective triage is critical for the protection of threatened resources, this configuration can be quickly employed to disaster scenes, ensuring the rapid collection of data, which in turn, can be uploaded to internet enabled GIS systems for analysis by experts off-site. In other words, analyzed by folks virtually anywhere in the internet world.

Kevin Ammons: Is this only useful in disaster context?

Barrett Kennedy: No, Kevin.

Remember, we originally conceived this of approach as a way to rapidly and inexpensively document landscapes and streetscapes as part of a proactive strategy of anticipating threats to heritage resources, whether those threats might be slow and incremental or sudden and cataclysmic.

The idea is to capture the data, then return to the office and do the analysis on an as needed basis. The appropriate expert can review the data stream and supplement the database with their analysis. As I said earlier, we see documentation as a key to preservation, so the more effective we are in anticipatory documentation, the better prepared we’ll be for planning efforts and disaster response efforts.

Kevin Ammons: Any particular problems associated with this technique?

Barrett Kennedy: Well, yes, Kevin. Since we don’t have the resources of Google at our disposal, it has been a challenging learning curve for us.

But since we’re compelled to take this affordable, cost-effective approach, we’re reminded constantly to focus on really practical applications of these complex, rapidly evolving technologies. For instance, we’re asking simple questions that the information must approach and capture and how that might critically inform initial disaster response and mitigation efforts.

At the same time, as we develop a fundamental understanding of the technologies and their developmental trajectory, our prototyping efforts can help us better understand how we can effectively assimilate the technologies into our work processes and become more effective as stewards of our heritage assets.

Going forward, we know that we can anticipate higher resolution digital video cameras with crisp wide angle and telephoto optics, and we certainly expect greater sensitivity and accuracy in our GPS devices, as well as more robust information management and analysis systems with friendlier user interfaces. All of this technology is coming, but it’s the kind of prototyping that I’m talking about here that prepares us to take best advantage of the technological advances as they become available and affordable.

The data collection process is pretty straight forward and I expect that the ongoing advances in audio/video technologies will resolve many of the technical problems that we’ve encountered.

Even so, remember the project was conceived as broadly inclusive and the real challenge is in configuring a user friendly interface that invites participation of a wide range of area experts. These might be the historical architects, landscape architects, planners, engineers, historians, and others as well as a broad cross-section of public constituencies, from governmental agencies and preservation commissions to neighborhood associations and homeowners.

As we go forward, we will be looking for ways to meld the technologies into readily accessible, interactive applications that can deliver useful information across the internet to all of these constituencies.

Kevin Ammons: Are there opportunities for greater collaboration?

Barrett Kennedy: Well, what we’d like to do is test the approach across a representative range of sights and settings and bring a variety of disciplines together to interact and contribute to the developmental process over these prototyping efforts.

This means we’re actively looking for potential partners and projects that might help with the prototyping as part of an overall planning and management strategy.

Having said that, Kevin, I want to reiterate that we’ll continue to be interested in opportunities to respond to the rapid documentation needs that we encounter in the wake of disaster events.

Kevin Ammons: Barrett, thanks for being here.

Barrett Kennedy: Really, Kevin, it’s been my pleasure and I enjoyed the opportunity to speak with you. Thanks very much.

Kevin Ammons speaks with Dr. Barrett Kennedy, professor of architecture at Louisiana State University College of Design.

2. Entry Level Landscape Management and Preservation Training (Episode 2)

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Charlie Pepper outlines the youth training program which has been successful at preparing young men and women for job placement. Pepper directs the Historic Landscape Preservation and Maintenance program at the Olmsted Center for Landscape Preservation.

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In the second episode of The Preservation Technology Podcast, Kevin Ammons interviews Charlie Pepper who directs the Historic Landscape Preservation and Maintenance program

1. Who Wants to Preserve a Cemetery? (Episode 1)

Transcript

Kevin Ammons:Welcome to the Preservation Technology Podcast. I’m Kevin Ammons and today we are talking to Jason Church a conservator with the National Center for Preservation Technology and Training. Jason coordinates the Center’s very successful series of cemetery monument conservation workshops.

Kevin Ammons: Welcome Jason, I understand you used to live in a graveyard.

Jason Church: Kevin, that is true. I used to live in a graveyard. My wife, daughter, and I all lived in Laurel Grove South Cemetery in Savannah Georgia which is an all African American Victorian Rural Movement Cemetery. We were there as live-in caretakers for about almost two years. It’s always a good conversation starter at a party. “Well when we used to live in a cemetery…” It was a fun place to live we had good times there.

Kevin Ammons: Well most people don’t think, well I want to grow up and preserve cemeteries. What brought you into the field?

Jason Church: Actually I’m probably one of the few people that can narrow that down. Fourth grade North Carolina history class my teacher Ms. Lucas made us all do local history projects, and I was living in Wilmington, North Carolina and did a video tour of Oakdale Cemetery there in Wilmington. I got to know the caretaker he took me around told me all kinds of crazy stories and my dad and I would go there on the weekends and hang out with the caretaker. We even skipped school and worked together a few times to go. He took us in one of the mausoleums, the things a normal person wouldn’t get to see and I was always sort of interested and after that I did a lot of projects in graduate school. I did the graduate program in historic preservation at Savanna College of Art and Design and of course kept on focusing on cemetery. It ended up being a career.

Kevin Ammons: So tell us about the workshop. What are you teaching folks?

Jason Church: This year were covering all the basics we’re talking about cleaning techniques on stone, consolidation techniques, adhesive repairs, and both reinforced and unreinforced. We are also looking at patch fields and of course resetting a monument. And all of that this year will be focused on slate and brown stone which is sort of our unique spin on this workshop in the past we’ve looked at things like bronze, zinc, wooden fences, wooden grave markers, brick mausoleums, and vaulting that sort of thing. So every year it changes up a little bit and that’s good for the people that take the workshop year after year. We get the same people that occasionally will come back to get sort of the new techniques. This year it is being held in New England. It will be in New England this is the first time we have ever taken it to New England which is really important for us. New England is a very important area for cemetery conservation that’s of course the oldest cemeteries in the country and that’s where cemetery conservation really started was in New England so its very important for us to go there. We haven’t done it before and we are really looking forward to going there. It will be in New London Connecticut.

Kevin Ammons: I understand this workshop will focus on brown stone and slate. What made those materials so popular in New England and are they still used today?

Jason Church: Well they don’t use them as much today. There’s a few slate carpenters still in New England doing really beautiful work. That’s a very specialized thing that isn’t being used as much. I don’t know of any brown stone that is still being used but I could definitely be wrong about that. Slate and brownstone were really used especially in the slate because that was a very familiar material you have a lot in Europe, England, and in the British Isles. So it was sort of coming over with the people. They knew how to work that but it was also their material especially the brown stone that was very easy to get out of the ground so with minimal effort and not a lot of technology and tooling the pioneers of that area of the early New England settlers were able to carve and do some very beautiful work with the material. That was fairly easy to acquire.

Kevin Ammons: I understand the workshops have been held all over the country how do you determine where to host a workshop?

Jason Church: Well, we have moved this all over the country this is the 6th year we’ve done the workshop. We try to hold them in different regions to draw the people interested in this topic from that region. It works fairly well. We’ve discovered a lot of people from other regions also come for a little bit of a vacation as well and to see new thing and to look at new problems that they might not have. The reason we bring it to different regions also is to try to focus on different materials like the slate and brown stone of New England and the way that we choose this originally was areas that really needed. This issue of people who were calling us repeatedly saying were having a lot of concern in our area or a lot of interest in our area could you come here we have a lot of people interested we have a great case study for you to work at.

Jason Church: It changes because we’ve done so many of them now that now we have a large map of the US. I have mapped out everyone that we have taught classes to and were trying to start feeling in gaps where haven’t we been where haven’t we taught people and that’s sort of what’s helping us choose the new locations. Then we find partners in that and a really important thing to get us to come to an area is how good our partner is. We might not have the resource in that area so we’re looking for good partners who can help us come into that area and help us advertise help us learn that area that were going to hold the workshop at. Well as I said before it is hard to imagine folks wanting to work on cemeteries for a living yet the workshops have been going strong since 2003.

Kevin Ammons: What kind of people come to the cemetery monument conservation workshops?

Jason Church: Well that’s one good thing about our workshops we actually see a pretty wide diverse group. We have a real wide audience which is a real plus for the workshop because not only do you get to meet a large group of instructors we have a very small teacher to student ratio. We have anywhere from eight to ten instructors and we have the workshop at 32 participants.

Jason Church: So yeah, you get a lot of hands on time with each instructor but also you really get to network with other people that come from different disciplines and different areas. We get professional conservators. we get small church sections who maybe only want to do a few grave markers that you know have small cemeteries. A lot of people come in from national cemeteries that oversee pretty large groups of graves. A lot of city planners who maybe are not necessary going to do the work themselves, but they are looking to speculate the work out to professionals. So they don’t need to know what is the right way to do it, what should they be looking for in contract bids. So we have a really large group and of course we have lately a lot of retirees who are retired from some other occupation who are wanting to get into this in retirement age.

Jason Church: Genealogy is the fastest growing hobby in America right now so we are starting to get that baby boomer generation coming in to take these professional workshops and start doing it from time to time. Have these workshops branched out to other audiences too? Well when it started out we had just this three day hands on workshop like we will be holding in New England and that’s three days very intense hands on out in the field but we realized maybe we weren’t locating all of the audiences we needed. So we’ve actually branched off into three workshops in the series.

Jason Church: We have a much more hands on much more intensive five day workshop and that’s a week long. It takes a lot of time out so it’s really professional that really needs this sort of hands on intense workshop that covers a lot of complex issues.

Jason Church: But more important, we also teach a basics workshop and these are for a little bit larger groups. We take about 40 participants for these workshops. We hold them at different areas of the country as well and these are one day workshops that last about four to five hours. It’s mostly inside lecture with a hands on cleaning demonstration. In the inside lecture we talk about documentation of cemeteries. We talk about condition survey, how to identify the material that you’re looking at, and then of course the dos and don’ts of cleaning and usually a different topic each time we talk to our partners which are usually state preservation organizations on a different topic. Sometimes they want to look at well how do you do simple resetting or they want to look at trying to convey the importance of iron fencing or the importance of grave surrounds to a group.

Jason Church: The basics workshop really brings in that genealogist group. The small church sextons, a lot of DAR and Sons of Confederate veterans. A lot of groups like that that are really passionate about cemeteries who are doing the work and really want to know the right way to do it.

Kevin Ammons: Do you see any unmet needs or any other audiences out there that you plan to address in the future?

Jason Church: Sure there are a lot of materials involved in cemeteries. Most of our workshops are involved around stone and that’s one of the things we started branching out from to look at iron work, bronze, and zincs possibly start looking at more materials in cemeteries. We’ve done wood that sort of thing to try to hit audiences that maybe know about the stone work in cemetery but are maybe curious and need information about uh things like the fencing or the iron work. We talked to most groups. We do a lot of work with the Monument Builders of America that’s a really good group to work with cause they are really in the cemetery the most. They’re the ones there ancestors put the headstones in originally that sort of thing. So we done a lot of work with those that’s been a really good audience for us as well.

Kevin Ammons: Thanks for being here Jason.

Jason Church: No thank you Kevin.

Kevin Ammons: If you would like to learn more about the National Center for Preservation Technology and Training and the Cemetery Monument Conservation workshops visit our website at ncptt.nps.gov. Until next time, goodbye everybody.

Kevin Ammons interviews Jason Church, a conservator with the National Center for Preservation Technology and Training. Jason coordinates the Center’s very successful series of cemetery monument conservation workshops.

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