Well good evening everyone and welcome to the 2021 Virtual Grand Canyon Star Party.
I'm ranger Rader Lane, the National Park Service coordinator for the event and for 31 years running
Grand Canyon has been celebrating our pristine night skies through the Annual Grand Canyon Star
Party. Now ordinarily we invite hundreds of astronomers and thousands upon thousands of
visitors to the park to enjoy eight nights of some of the darkest night skies in the United States.
And each evening is typically kicked off with a special guest speaker in our theater, followed by
telescope viewing, constellation programs, night sky photography workshops, and much, much more.
Next year's Grand Canyon Star Party is June 18th through the 25th, 2022, so mark your calendars and
hopefully we'll be able to celebrate that on-site here on the South Rim next year.
This year we're bringing Grand Canyon Star Party into the virtual realm once again and we have a
whole host of incredible speakers for you this year. And before we introduce our special guest
speaker this evening, I just have a few entities I would like to thank from the National Park
Service for help organizing and supporting this event. Number one, I'd like to thank the Grand
Canyon Conservancy--they are the park's official non-profit partner and they have done tremendous
work protecting and preserving the dark skies in and around Grand Canyon National Park. I'd like to
thank the International Dark Sky Association--they are the entity that certified Grand Canyon
National Park as an International Dark Sky Park back in June of 2019. I'd also like to thank the
Tucson Amateur Astronomy Association--they are the group that have been coming up here for decades,
dedicating their time, volunteering their expertise and their equipment to share
the wonders of the night sky with visitors. And they're the ones putting on the virtual
telescope viewing sessions premiering after these talks, after the special guest speaker talks.
Finally I'd like to thank the Society for Cultural Astronomy and the American Southwest--they
helped us tremendously, organizing many of the special guest speakers this year, so thank you.
And with that I want to introduce tonight's special guest speaker. Tonight
we are excited and honored to have Kenny Bowekaty. Kenny is currently a tour guide for
the Pueblo Zuni. He was a longtime archaeologist preservation officer and consultant for the tribe.
Kenny is a member of the Lieutenant Society which is a body that oversees the Zuni religion. He's
also a priest to the Fire Deity preserving and teaching the cosmology and world view
of the Zuni people and the Puebloan peoples of the greater southwest. Kenny, it is such a
pleasure to have you with us, thanks so much for being willing to speak with us about Zuni today.
Yeah thank you, thank you for having me Rader, and it is an honor to come and talk to you folks
about, you know, our formalities of constellation. So as you introduced me, I've been a longtime
archaeologist and I said, of course my position in the religion helps me to provide all of this
and give a better perspective for many, many peoples coming in all over the world. Of course
people read about Zuni, but of course the research and the reading, that isn't quite accurate. So
people have still this interest of what really makes the Zunis who they are, or basically what I
use is A:shiwi, we are A:shiwi. Zuni is kind of like our alias name, taken from the Spanish, but
for me, as you mentioned, coming in from these religious positions, this has helped me to really
exercise now the importance of the existence of Zuni and how it relates to many great formalities.
Of course the constellation has always been that the function of the people, where the belief of
Father Sun, Mother Earth, the North Star, Venus of course being the the Morning Star, they all have
a significant position as far as creating not only our world but the universe. And so in this world
view cosmology, basically it's a prayer that was, of course it's still spoken of, but coming from
these positions in our religion, it allowed my brothers to sort of now give me rights to
bring it into translation and then give a better perspective to many great people as I said. So
it is as I said an hour and a half long but I will cut a lot of it out, especially some of
the more esoteric portions of it. I do bring out a little bit of religious functioning in these
interpretation, but of course for our time spent here I'll cut out all the other corners and just
kind of formulate it out for you, so that people can understand. So what I got now I guess is I
will be presenting a few slides and talking about our formalities of how we see the constellation,
and of course the space, and how it relates to who we are. All right let's get into it.
All right. So, I want to introduce what is the worldview cosmology, and again this is an interp
that I created, more or less translated from what is a six hour long prayer, but it basically covers
who we are, as far as the people, and what our prophecy is to find the middle place
of Mother Earth's chest was formulated of course by what is the creation of our first and foremost,
the all-time creator of life. And so I want to introduce to you now the Zuni worldview cosmology.
Here we basically present this presentation at any given time during our tourism season,
and so the worldview cosmology of course this is A:shiwi, that's who we are.
Zuni is an adoptive name taken from the Spanish which basically means red mountains with no tops,
mesas. But the A:shiwi literally know their history and where they come from. And it basically
begins with our Father Sun. Now Father Sun is one of many suns in this oblivious world of space,
but he is like a sibling to many other suns of course that are his siblings.
Like a family, he was given the room to develop what would be his children,
basically he will create what is this, in the galaxies those bright implements that you see
are the siblings of Father Sun. Scattered throughout space they will create their own
forms of families. Here Father Sun creates his, from what is the planetary systems he will
create from Mars to Pluto, Saturn, his stillborn children. Mother Earth would be (arenas) would be
created as one of two star beings that will be the creators of the children of Mother Earth.
Here would be the birth of Mother Earth, having Father Sun sitting alone in his room, he yearned
for his children to be born. So he would create what would be his own true element of fire and
gave birth to Mother Earth. Taking a rock, meteor, floating in space with a blaze it into a flame,
which of course the evolution of Mother Earth begins, the birth. Here of course from the Big
Bang Theory through what will be the stars, the Sun, it will crustate after billions of years
in being in this thermalistic fiery stage which is what we now call her very young infant stage.
She will grow in this ball of flame and fire onto what would be the brink of womanhood. Here
she would be formulated and met by Venus, her sister, which would now serve as one of
the twilights to be sent down to her by Father Sun, with what is now known as the North Star.
The North Star, two brethrens, war gods, basically created by Father Sun, sent into Mother Earth,
of course along with Venus the Morning Star, into Mother Earth's fiery crustational
surface. Here they would enter through what would be rivers of lava, fire, oceans of fire,
lava, come through in what would be this area we call Ribbon Falls (with Zuni translation).
This is the place of our origins. In the back of this fall is a tomb we call, what is,
the emergence area. In three sub-surface worlds, basically the world of the wind,
into the world of the water, and into this pitch dark environment tomb, we call the residue of
fire. The world of the suit will be entered in by the two stars and would submerge themselves
into what would be waist to chest deep waters. Together the two stars would reach into the
bottom depths of this the water and extract out this black sulfuristic smell of mud and clay.
Together for four days the North Star created the male faction of the children,
the Morning Star created the females, they would create the children out of the black sulfuristic
smell of mud and clay, like salamander beads. Born with webbed hands and feet,
scales and tails, growing no larger than the length of their palms.
For four days they will create these ancestral beings of our people. Here after the fourth day
the prophecy of finding the middle place of Mother Earth's chest will now be presented
to the children. They will not be classified or designated into any form of community
group or faction. They will all be known as the children of Mother Earth, giving them of course
what would be the heart of Mother Earth. Created by the same sulfuristic smell of mud and clay,
with life incorporated into this heart, they handed the heart off to the children
of Mother Earth and gave them this prophecy: one day you will come out of this hole and
you will come to what will be the fourth world of Mother Earth, which is the daylight world.
Here you will walk through the hallways to find and come out to the chest, to the beginnings,
to find the middle place throughout her chest. And basically with this the stars told them,
the North Star I will be at the northernmost sections of your area at the nights of
every sunfall. The Morning Star proclaimed the same, but to be more on the southern direction,
in search of the middle place they were used as sort of directional twilights.
And basically as two stars left what would be the evolution of Mother Earth, now into her living
breathing womanhood, would begin. She would more or less, the evolution of her from a fiery stage,
would now create her as a young woman, creating life on earth. Dinosaurs will be the first rulers
of herself, but in this format our entrance into emergence, into this
daylight world, begins during the Triassic time period. Only fitting to be created
in the salamander-like configurations, we will more or less emerge into this world.
Triassic area, and basically live alongside with what would be the great beasts of the world.
However their world would also turn into corruption, infighting, and of course all of this
volcanic eruptions, Mother Earth was starting to formulate herself to now hold what be the children
of Mother Earth. But this will be the time when the children of Mother Earth come out of the Grand
Canyon, out of Ribbon Falls, now into the daylight world. They would use, of course the children
will come in as this salamander form, coming out with the heart of Mother Earth into this world,
following what will be the Grand Canyon corridor. Through the Grand Canyon corridor they will come
to the confluence of the Little Colorado River and the Grand Canyon corridor. Using the LCR, they
will come down through what is basically the state of Arizona, following the Little Colorado River
out up to what was now present-day St. John's, Arizona. Here, basically the people coming to St.
John's, our people would emerge out on the western bank of the Little Colorado River. Our head Kasiki
at the time, who was already appointed, declared that the emergence out of the canyon...(break)
the wrong side. Here is where an attempt to cross the Little Colorado River,
of course was now conducted, claiming many many lives. Many of our
people will drown and perish. Now this portion here of course is an esoteric providence of the
A:shiwi, it is an area where many lives were lost and of course were the formats of crimes were
developed to create ancestral children. These are esoteric formalities but will be later declared
the everlasting home of our past loved ones and... (break)
of the condemned children of the mud had been. From here our people will be told to go up north
to what is called Hardscrabble Wash. Here it will be an area we call (Zuni word) En route to our
place of evolution, which is what (Zuni word - hanji binga?) means,
Mother Earth would also come into her own reality. This is an overview of the entrance way into this
valley in which of course Mother Earth would now come to
a realization that the great beasts of the world should be obliterated from her surface because it
is now time for her children to be brought in to this world to search for the centerplace of Mother
Earth. Hundreds if not thousands of meteors will impact the surface of Mother Earth, creating now
a devastating environment for the dinosaur. The closest impact that would take place here would be
Winslow, Arizona - the great meteor crater of the southwest. Here, of course, the impacts would also
silicify Mother Earth into a new environment, bringing her much more deeper into her
womanhood faction and basically create a brand new life. But from all the impacts and the dust and
disintegration of ash into the atmosphere creates what we call the four days of night. In this time
our salamander children ancestors would reach what would be (Zuni word for) Hardscrabble Wash.
In this dark gloomy environment world, the four days of night is when the two star...
North Star and the Morning Star would once again come down to the surface of Mother Earth,
but this time to Hardscrabble Wash. Together they would line the children of Mother Earth up.
The Morning Star would line the females, the North Star would line the male factions.
Together they brought projectile point flints. With these projectiles they peeled
the scales off their skin and basically formulated them, cutting off their tails
and stretching them from their heads to their toes to create what is now the human structure.
This was conducted so that the search for the middle place will be conducted
in a much more speedier note than being in a small reptilic configurated frame. Here after
several days of configurating the people, this is where they would be designated the North Star
and the Morning Star after four days of creating what is now the human faction of the ...(break)
Children of Mother Earth would now classify the people, but more or less the North Star and the
Morning Star took half of these people and made them the A:shiwi. They gave them the heart of
Mother Earth and told them from Hardscrabble Wash (Zuni translation) you will go directly east and
settle in a place called Hawikuh. Here you will wait for your brethrens to come and hopefully find
the middle place. The two stars turned to the last half of people and once again divided them up.
Here as they divided the the people up, the North Star created what would be the winter people.
These will be fractionated into Hopi, Laguna, Acoma, Cochiti, Santo Domingo, Isleta, Taos, and
a small band of Zuni. To be placed in the winter people presented an egg which was bright in color,
cracking it, a black crow comes flying out and flies north towards, again, back towards the Grand
Canyon. The Morning Star will fractionate what would be her children, the summer people, these
will be anywhere from Mayans, Aztec, Mogollan, Salado, San Pedro, indigenous valley people,
all the way up to the Incas. In what we believe that the people of the Morning Star are designated
as those that went to the everlasting sun, never to return. They presented a black doll bleak egg,
cracked it and the parrot macaw comes flying out. This depiction, cartoon image,
sort of now gives that format of the splitting of the people--here you see one people's headed
north following the black crow and you see another people's following a parrot macaw
coming to the south, directly towards you, people headed north with their backs towards us.
...people, and here you see the A:shiwi going directly east, following what were the orders
to go to Haweap. This begins the migration of our children in search of the middle
place. The two stars once again give the people a formality right of direction with their twilight.
Here of course the directions in which our people will take will be a massive track, it will
basically cover the entire Colorado Plateau. Here as they would migrate they would inscript and
place petroglyphs on mountains, boulders, remembering who they were,
as once they salamander people. This is why the southwest and much of the world is obliterated
with these reptilic-like configurated petroglyphs and most often you'll see a reptilic configurated
figure along with the human figure next to it, basically describing the evolution of man.
But of course this is where places like Mesa Verde, Chaco Canyon, Aztec Ruins would start
to serve as these places of destination, people veering off on these migrations will basically
have family members-- sons, fathers, uncles, who would still, with a notion to travel and search,
would use these places as destination points. Here of course these would be...
utilized by the people as places to gather en route to somewhere you'll come to Mesa Verde,
Chaco Canyon, you will get news and information and move on.
Here of course this are depictions of village of the great kivas, but as the two stars now serve
as what would be directional twilights, this is where the medicine societies start to
be the first ones to use the constellations in directions, times, and seasons.
But here of course after hundreds and thousands of years of traveling, there
would be a return of the A:shiwi in this small format back to Hawikuh, and this depiction shows
a water strider which hovered over Mother Earth in what would be the outer atmospheres of space,
waiting for this return. When the winter people finally returned back to Hawikuh, this insect
was summonsed down by Father Sun, Mother Earth and the two twilight beings to land on the four
major oceans of Mother Earth and lower her body to where her body lands in the middle of her heart,
her frame, where her heart is placed that would declare the middle place of Mother Earth's chest.
Now as this takes place Hawikuh will be the area where the return is now, of course reached by
the winter people, the two stars come back down, but this time they come to Hawikuh.
Well actually we're jumping the gun here, but this is where Hawikuh
will be the temporary holding place for the heart of Mother Earth. As the water strider designate
Zuni to be the middle place of Mother Earth, here is where the heart of Mother Earth that was placed
at Hawikuh transported itself to our village of Zuni, along with the insect shrinking down to the
very small element of herself, and now declaring and designating our village of Zuni (Zuni word),
the middle place of Mother Earth's chest. This basically brings now an end to what will
be these great villages of Chaco Canyon, Mesa Verde, now here in Zuni we have the answers...
where and what happened to these people that resided in Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde. When Zuni
was declared the centerplace of Mother Earth's chest, a message was sent out to these areas
in which people resided for hundreds of years in hopes that they would eventually find the
middle place, and as this event finally occurred the message basically went out
and stated if you are living in these villages, of course Mesa Verde, Chaco Canyon, Aztec Ruins,
still within these villages, hoping to find the middle place,
you may no longer do the quest, for it has been founded and you may basically pack your things
and go back to the areas where you left your loved ones spearing off these initial migrations,
hundreds of years back. Places like Mesa Verde, Hopi, Hualapai, Havasupai, maybe even some Zuni,
and other tribes residing there will simply pack their things and head back to these areas, like
Hopi, like Acoma, Zuni. Same ordeal with the the Chaconium factor, for places from Chaco Canyon,
Zunis came and of course created Village of the Great Kivas. These are the inscriptional panels
of the Village of the Great Kivas but Hawikuh will become a trade center in which now would serve as
a trade center for many great people, and the Village of the Great Kivas will begin. And so but
for the A:shiwi in what we know about the constellations, it is the medicine societies
that are of course the main formats of groups that use the night sky
as their form of defense in their religious formalities.
A few details that we can share with you upon of course how we view the constellation,
there are a lot more formalities to what we believe and are the stars, and so
in the religion, in the hierarchies of medicine societies, these are what basically
bring in the constellation of formats through summer solstice. We are a lunar following tribe
so every month in the full moons where basically these are times of fasting
and teachings within the religious sectors. So every month of course following the lunar...
our new years basically is about one month
earlier than the rest of the world, and so our new year's really begins about December.
Now the rest of this cosmology that I hold of course runs also into what is
the Spanish, but of course the Spanish is a different entity from what is this cosmology
interpretation, so of course I cut around a lot of corners to bring in this presentation. Normally
this would take about an hour and a half, but the two stars are still known as the very formats of
the war gods. Now they are representative of the war gods in which they still serve as protectors
to Mother Earth and the children of Mother Earth, which of course includes every life aspect here.
And so with this worldview cosmology it is still a very vital part in the teachings of our
formalities of traditions and religious rights. And so of course with this interp, from the time
when our people emerged out from the canyon, it had a lot to do with these twilights, and so, but
of course it is also a sort of taboo among the A:shiwi people not to be looking into the sky,
you know, into these stars, because you never know what, as they said, what could look down upon you.
And so for Zuni although it is a vital and very important format to use the constellations
the Milky Way, Father Sun, of course him being the all-time creator of life,
he is mentioned in every song, in every prayer, in every formality. Father Sun, Mother Earth are all
always mentioned as the first formats to create the life of the children of Mother Earth.
And so of course as I usually continue into this, this goes into the Spanish formats, but
of course from here my slideshow brings in a lot of other formalities like the Spanish coming in,
and of course excavations that took place in the 1917. But of course this is present day Zuni, this
is a 1990 model that we produced of the village, pretty much the setting of 1990, you can see the
Spanish mission church, but off to the background where you see that white ladder sticking up,
and the ladder sticking into the house, that is designated the middle place of Mother Earth.
It is still here, religious functions take place there almost entirely, every year. And so but
this is in a small nutshell of introducing what we believe in the constellations of who we are as a
people, and as I said we do these interpretations here, when I do, half the time there's a lot more
formalities and functions that go into this. But of course I am very honored to be a part of
this presentation, and of course that's me at the middle place of Mother Earth as that's me
during the winter time after the winter solstice was over, and then I brought some people in on a
tour and basically I do provide, myself and two other guys, we provide tours to here,
the middle place of Mother Earth, we give them this bit of information.
People down into these areas, and of course that's what we have here.
So of course this is again Village of the Great Kivas, just some photos that I have here,
but of course that's an ending to it, but thank you very much. I hope
I wasn't taking too much of time here. So but I want to say thank you again to you, Rader,
and I was hoping to see if I could talk to Mike, but maybe I can talk to him later.
But yeah, thank you very much. Oh we appreciate you Kenny,
so much, that was a fantastic presentation, and just a couple questions if you don't mind.
You mentioned that the Morning Star and the Evening Star, I guess like,
are representative of the twin war gods. Is it the Ahayu'da? Is that how? Yes. Okay, so the Ahayu'da,
you mentioned in your talk, they were the twin war gods that guided the A:shiwi people out of
Ribbon Falls, which is you know, right there in the main hiking corridor of the Grand Canyon.
Not a lot of people realize how sacred of a place
Ribbon Falls is to an entire peoples, the A:shiwi peoples. There's no, currently really
no signage or anything like that indicating that. Right. What would you say to people
who are hiking through the Grand Canyon and come across Ribbon Falls, how would you ask them if
you could to approach a place like Ribbon Falls when they're hiking in the canyon?
Well you know like any traditional cultural properties,
of course respect to the area. For Zuni actually it is an esoteric and sort of a
area where people shouldn't go to so much, kind of like our Heavens District in St. John's,
it is restricted. We used to provide, there used to be pilgrimages that would be conducted
which would last for four years, and sometimes some people would not return, and so
it was one of those pilgrimages that's not conducted anymore. I know I did a lot of
river trips and some of those river trips, actually with some of our religious elders,
did some offerings there years back, which was probably the last real time. But of course there
is a whole religious process that must take place here in Zuni, and then it basically is
taken there, but that type of pilgrimage has not been conducted in hundreds of years, maybe two,
three hundred years. But it is sort of designated like our Heavens District, and for Zuni, females
are actually restricted from the whole corridor, and so it's kind of like our heavens district,
it is restricted, but of course it is a national park now, and so and then many of our people
with the luxury of vehicles now, at any given time can hop in their vehicle, drive down
enter the Grand Canyon without any of the religious people knowing. And so for me...
tourism helps me bring this education out to the community, and so, and doing stuff like this,
because I'm pretty sure it's going to go online, people get to see it, some Zunis will see it, and
that is that formality, it is kind of like our heavens, and so in a way, what I can tell you,
is that it's a return back into Mother Earth
in the afterlife. So it's a form of paradise, should I say, and so it's
in what we believe, you return back to the Earth, which is basically back into the womb. And
as that occurs it's passing on into paradise, more or less. Wow. But that's just a small,
small sort of interp that I can share with you. Yeah. There's other the words that I actually use,
but just to go around those factors, this is pretty much what I can explain.
But more or less, for any hiker going through there, just respect the area, and of course
when you do get there, do look at the walls because there's a lot of holes and cracks,
and if you sit far enough, when you gaze at it, you tend to start seeing faces, and so, but more
or less, respect, because our ancestors, they're still there. And so it's kind of the same thing...
did with the southwest archaeology magazine, I don't know if I should name them specifically,
but I did an article with them about pot hunting and looting, and so I do have a little,
a section in the magazine where we talk about respect, to not only archaeological sites, but
you know, sites of significance like Ribbon Falls in the Grand Canyon and so, but yeah,
basically that's it- just respect the area. Yeah. Of course, it's for everyone to see,
and it is a traditional cultural property for the A:shiwi, but basically it belongs to Mother Earth.
Yeah, well that's a great answer Kenny, I mean just really important for people to realize this
is much more than just a national park, it is an incredibly sacred place for the indigenous
peoples of the southwest, and hopefully everybody watching will take Kenny's words
to heart and really respect these, these sacred areas when you have the privilege to go and see
these places as you're hiking through the canyon. Kenny could you talk briefly about the role of
sun watching in A:shiwi culture - is that like along with other pueblo cultures that we've spoken
with this week, is that a prominent feature in A:shiwi culture, the practice of sun watching?
Not really, well we do have the Sun Priest, which is the (Zuni word),
but it is actually again like I said, a taboo-ish thing to be looking into the night sky, especially
with the sun, because he is like like his own special being, which is kind of like, it's kind of
like a huge celebrity where it's very hard to get to even see or talk to, but he is an influence,
that's why you know in my shirt, my logo, we have Father Sun as our t-shirt logo, but he is
a source of life that shouldn't be, should I say, encroached upon, especially by the people, and it
goes more so with the the womenfolk, they really shouldn't be looking into the night sky because,
you know, it is said that things could look down upon you that could either be good or bad
and so there's a lot of formats that go along, but sun watching, you know, it's not a practice
that Zuni does you know, regularly, but it is followed by the Sun Priest and so
he's about the only one that can actually do sort of sun watching and star watching, along with the
Pole Priest. But I mean we do have you know a lot of our young generation and peoples who are really
into astronomical, sort of stars and planets, and you know, but even myself, I bought me a
telescope one time, but the star watching and all of that you know, in the religious sector
it is forbidden, but you know nowadays it is a different time and so our younger generation,
they're studying this astronomy, and so I do, I do get a lot of students who are interested in
stuff like that, but you know as Zuni there are formalities, so there are some taboos.
Well Kenny, I mean it's always really amazing to see people like you who are attempting, and
very successfully in my opinion, navigating your traditional ways through contemporary society,
and you know it's a very tricky thing to do, and based on how you've incorporated a lot of
contemporary ideas with the Zuni cosmology, or should I say, contemporary ideas have aligned
with Zuni cosmology, right, because this has been thought of for many thousands of years
and in a lot of ways science is just catching up to these type of understandings. I think that's a
really amazing thing that you're doing, and I wish you the best of luck in continuing that pursuit.
Thank you. So thank you very much, and everybody watching please thank Kenny in the chat room.
We are really appreciative of him, and again for everybody watching,
the telescope viewing session is premiering right after this program, so check that out.
The 2022 Grand Canyon Star Party is June 18th through the 25th, hopefully we'll be able to
see everybody on site next year and celebrate, and maybe who knows, maybe you'll all be able to
meet Kenny in real life in a future star party. Inviting him here, and talking, I think it would
be really great. So thanks again so much Kenny and we hope to, we'll see you on site soon. Yeah thank
you very much and of course for those of you out there wanting to come to Zuni, we are open now,
we've been open for about a month and so it's looking really great. I am the lead tour guide
here, I got two other guys, but of course for all the tours that we have available, we're basically
looking at the guy who's kind of enhanced and brought in many other tours and so we got
anywhere from visiting the great kivas,
to how it could we can do the Seven Cities of Cibola. We, I, have several hiking tours,
and then of course you can actually sit down here with me, with this slideshow, and go through this,
the whole bit of the worldview cosmology, here in the visitor center. And it's the
Zuni Visitor Center right? Yeah, I think if you just search "Zuni visitor center" on Google,
everybody, you'll be able to find it right there, it's one of the first hits.
Yeah, and as somebody who's
actually been on those tours before, they're just incredible, and I couldn't, I can't recommend them
enough, so please everybody, these talks are to get the places like the Pueblo of Zuni, you know,
more out there so people can learn about the amazing cultures of the traditionally-affiliated
tribes of Grand Canyon and of the southwest, so please visit Kenny out there on Zuni, as well as
coming to the park, and hopefully visiting him onsite for a future Grand Canyon Star Party. So
again, thanks so much Kenny and we hope to see you in the future. Thank you, yeah thank you, bye-bye.