WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:27.420 (Music) 00:00:32.220 --> 00:00:35.020 I'm gonna skip these notes, try these 00:00:35.020 --> 00:00:37.989 different notes. So good evening, how's 00:00:37.989 --> 00:00:40.570 everybody doing? so is it okay with you 00:00:40.570 --> 00:00:42.190 if i take my hat off so I can see you 00:00:42.190 --> 00:00:42.610 all? 00:00:42.610 --> 00:00:44.260 okay good cause otherwise I'm gonna get 00:00:44.260 --> 00:00:47.620 pretty hot, and if you've ever heard 00:00:47.620 --> 00:00:50.710 me talk before what you need to know is 00:00:50.710 --> 00:00:53.650 I'm pretty informal so you can ask me 00:00:53.650 --> 00:00:56.110 questions as we go along but if you want 00:00:56.110 --> 00:00:58.150 to get out of here within an hour you 00:00:58.150 --> 00:00:59.199 might want to think about asking 00:00:59.199 --> 00:01:01.660 questions at the end, becuase if you get me 00:01:01.660 --> 00:01:04.210 me on a tangent I could go on forever and 00:01:04.210 --> 00:01:05.680 ever and it might be better than what I 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:07.300 have written to talk about. 00:01:07.300 --> 00:01:09.340 Alright so we'll go there and so it is 00:01:09.340 --> 00:01:10.810 all about tomorrow so we're going to 00:01:10.810 --> 00:01:12.369 spend as much time talking about what 00:01:12.369 --> 00:01:16.149 we've done in the last decade but also 00:01:16.149 --> 00:01:18.040 what I want to focus on is where the 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.170 future challenges or as I like to put it 00:01:20.170 --> 00:01:22.810 you know what keeps me up at night and 00:01:22.810 --> 00:01:24.310 then also want to talk a bit about 00:01:24.310 --> 00:01:26.680 making the park relevant how do we all 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.640 need to do that. But it is the centennial 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.610 so it's my job to ask you questions 00:01:33.610 --> 00:01:38.710 now and I come with prizes. So are you ready? okay 00:01:38.710 --> 00:01:40.540 they're all like two the three to four 00:01:40.540 --> 00:01:43.390 part questions so you have to listen to 00:01:43.390 --> 00:01:46.060 the question and then you can raise your 00:01:46.060 --> 00:01:48.610 hand and then I'll identify you 00:01:48.610 --> 00:01:50.500 now you have to answer all parts we need 00:01:50.500 --> 00:01:52.780 the second part wrong then i go to the 00:01:52.780 --> 00:01:55.750 next person and then if you started it 00:01:55.750 --> 00:01:57.610 off and raise your hand again you have 00:01:57.610 --> 00:01:59.890 the benefit of the answer from person 00:01:59.890 --> 00:02:02.799 two all right so we'll see what 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:03.729 we can do here 00:02:03.729 --> 00:02:08.410 ok let's start off easy 00:02:08.410 --> 00:02:11.769 are you ready? 00:02:11.769 --> 00:02:14.709 how many parks are there in the National 00:02:14.709 --> 00:02:18.670 Park System what is the largest what is 00:02:18.670 --> 00:02:20.829 the smallest; three parts? 00:02:20.829 --> 00:02:27.549 this is great this will eat up all my hour. if 00:02:27.549 --> 00:02:29.680 you're close i start giving you brownie 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:30.519 points. 00:02:30.519 --> 00:02:37.490 come on I know you're not all that shy 00:02:37.490 --> 00:02:41.870 59 total ok so when I say national parks 00:02:41.870 --> 00:02:43.610 I mean in the entire system so that you 00:02:43.610 --> 00:02:46.550 start over yet, no, national park service 00:02:46.550 --> 00:02:51.320 units, no all units: monuments, memorials 00:02:51.320 --> 00:02:55.880 historic parks. but I'm gonna give you 00:02:55.880 --> 00:02:57.920 credit to start because that was really 00:02:57.920 --> 00:02:58.700 good. 00:02:58.700 --> 00:03:03.230 okay yes? okay you're getting close, now 00:03:03.230 --> 00:03:04.640 you go to the second one because you're close 00:03:04.640 --> 00:03:08.810 but now what's the largest? okay who's 00:03:08.810 --> 00:03:11.840 next? 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:16.640 no or else you would keep going. yes how 00:03:16.640 --> 00:03:19.550 many? state park 00:03:19.550 --> 00:03:22.160 ok so the largest, how many number how many 00:03:22.160 --> 00:03:23.420 in the park system 00:03:23.420 --> 00:03:27.830 yeah well she was close 00:03:27.830 --> 00:03:32.600 ok she was a lot closer but what's your second choice? 00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:43.760 No. Who's next? whoo, ok, Elias? Wrangell 00:03:43.760 --> 00:03:55.630 St. Elias. keep going what's the smallest? 00:03:55.630 --> 00:03:59.230 no. Ok last chance. 00:03:59.230 --> 00:04:03.040 no. good try though, good try. ok so 00:04:03.040 --> 00:04:06.820 you're gonna win congratulations. 413 00:04:06.820 --> 00:04:10.060 parks, 413 remember they all represent, 00:04:10.060 --> 00:04:11.680 you know, who we are, the fabric of 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.570 America, so they go anything from 00:04:13.570 --> 00:04:16.360 national parks to national memorials 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.209 to national historic parks you know. so 00:04:19.209 --> 00:04:21.580 we really have the whole gamut. the 00:04:21.580 --> 00:04:23.830 largest one is Wrangell St. Elias National 00:04:23.830 --> 00:04:27.490 Park and Preserve, 13.2 million acres 00:04:27.490 --> 00:04:29.230 about the size of West Virginia. 00:04:29.230 --> 00:04:32.080 alright and then the smallest I have to 00:04:32.080 --> 00:04:32.980 read it. 00:04:32.980 --> 00:04:40.060 Thaddeus Kosciuszko and you know 00:04:40.060 --> 00:04:40.780 what that is? 00:04:40.780 --> 00:04:45.880 oh you're looking it up. ohhh. Ah-ha! Well let's see 00:04:45.880 --> 00:04:47.530 she didn't chime in so that's pretty good 00:04:47.530 --> 00:04:50.560 it's only .02 acres and he 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.740 was an engineer during the Revolutionary 00:04:53.740 --> 00:04:56.350 War in fact Thomas Jefferson said he was 00:04:56.350 --> 00:04:57.940 one of the best Patriots they had ever met 00:04:57.940 --> 00:05:00.730 and he's also responsible for designing 00:05:00.730 --> 00:05:04.815 and building the fort at West Point. 00:05:04.815 --> 00:05:08.560 Ok, so there we go, so that was number 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.050 1 ok so now you're nice and warmed up. 00:05:11.050 --> 00:05:15.430 yes? Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. Wrangell St. Elias 00:05:15.430 --> 00:05:17.620 in Alaska so if you know Alaska 00:05:17.620 --> 00:05:21.370 Alaska looks like this right? Wrangell St. Elias 00:05:21.370 --> 00:05:23.950 is this whole corner here. it butts up 00:05:23.950 --> 00:05:26.020 to Kluane National Park, the Canadian park. 00:05:26.020 --> 00:05:28.330 Alright now I have a refrigerator magnet. 00:05:28.330 --> 00:05:32.680 you can add, alright, so here we go 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:41.260 alright little tougher this time okay 00:05:41.260 --> 00:05:44.890 how old is the National Park System, what was 00:05:44.890 --> 00:05:47.500 the first national park, and who was the 00:05:47.500 --> 00:05:48.370 president? 00:05:48.370 --> 00:05:51.370 yes 00:05:51.370 --> 00:05:55.710 ok 00:05:55.710 --> 00:06:05.610 right. Grant. 00:06:05.610 --> 00:06:08.550 alright very good all right now 00:06:08.550 --> 00:06:11.550 this one you get the mug now this one is 00:06:11.550 --> 00:06:15.570 not easy. In fact I had a couple times ago 00:06:15.570 --> 00:06:20.730 Oh ok I get it. Ok. So. what is the 00:06:20.730 --> 00:06:23.490 origin of the National Park Service 00:06:23.490 --> 00:06:29.460 arrowhead? now you can't see it anymore. 00:06:29.460 --> 00:06:31.500 Oh it's up there. 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:34.920 the origin of the National Park Service 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.290 arrowhead so basically what does it mean? 00:06:37.290 --> 00:06:39.930 if you look at it it's up there, 00:06:39.930 --> 00:06:42.390 what do you think it means up? it's up there too. 00:06:42.390 --> 00:06:49.230 raise your hand okay going for another 00:06:49.230 --> 00:06:49.800 one 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:54.090 okay now you're all warmed up right 00:06:54.090 --> 00:07:05.790 yes sir? 00:07:05.790 --> 00:07:10.290 right right so it was actually first a state 00:07:10.290 --> 00:07:12.480 park it was a grant by Abraham Lincoln 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.250 but he granted it to the state of 00:07:14.250 --> 00:07:15.870 California to take care of in the year 00:07:15.870 --> 00:07:22.200 186...4 which is what's going on then is 00:07:22.200 --> 00:07:24.150 the Civil War so you can imagine, you 00:07:24.150 --> 00:07:25.830 know, what's going on in the country 00:07:25.830 --> 00:07:27.510 and the president has this bill on his desk 00:07:27.510 --> 00:07:29.400 and says hey, hey, what do you think about 00:07:29.400 --> 00:07:32.010 establishing this park you know and it's like 00:07:32.010 --> 00:07:34.530 really it's a civil war but he was so 00:07:34.530 --> 00:07:36.510 foresighted that he, you know, he did. so that 00:07:36.510 --> 00:07:39.660 was really good and it wasn't 1890 in which the 00:07:39.660 --> 00:07:40.860 federal government took it back from 00:07:40.860 --> 00:07:42.330 the state of California. there's a lot of 00:07:42.330 --> 00:07:45.450 really good reasons for that, one is the 00:07:45.450 --> 00:07:47.370 way it was being managed. they thought it should 00:07:47.370 --> 00:07:49.290 be taken care of at a little higher standard. 00:07:49.290 --> 00:07:52.890 ok so let's, let's start talking 00:07:52.890 --> 00:07:57.690 about this evening. so as we said this is 00:07:57.690 --> 00:07:59.100 the centennial and I asked you all of 00:07:59.100 --> 00:08:00.510 our questions so it's been a great year 00:08:00.510 --> 00:08:01.620 to celebrate 00:08:01.620 --> 00:08:03.420 we've had a wonderful year here at the 00:08:03.420 --> 00:08:04.950 the Channel Islands we've had lots of 00:08:04.950 --> 00:08:07.620 celebration, we've reached out, touched hundreds 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:09.330 of people, thousands of people and I'll 00:08:09.330 --> 00:08:11.220 even tell you what some of the programs 00:08:11.220 --> 00:08:13.050 we do this year we've gotten up to some 00:08:13.050 --> 00:08:15.210 of ours are reaching up to 5 million 00:08:15.210 --> 00:08:17.550 people and it's all because of some of 00:08:17.550 --> 00:08:20.970 the innovative technologies that we are using but 00:08:20.970 --> 00:08:23.490 let's start in the beginning. and so 00:08:23.490 --> 00:08:25.350 everybody knows with this guy is right? 00:08:25.350 --> 00:08:29.580 oh, Pinchot, he's a little older than 00:08:29.580 --> 00:08:31.620 Pinchot by maybe almost 100 years 00:08:31.620 --> 00:08:32.760 but uh 00:08:32.760 --> 00:08:36.419 not quite a hundred years. this was hard and 00:08:36.419 --> 00:08:37.979 the reason I want to bring this up is, 00:08:37.979 --> 00:08:41.040 you know this idea of a national park is older 00:08:41.040 --> 00:08:43.110 than we all think, we think Yellowstone 00:08:43.110 --> 00:08:45.360 in 1872, we think Yosemite, 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.610 but what really what was happening is 00:08:47.610 --> 00:08:49.260 you have people like this gentleman 00:08:49.260 --> 00:08:52.260 who's George Catlin that when he was 00:08:52.260 --> 00:08:54.600 traveling across the middle of the 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.030 United States he was an artist and an 00:08:57.030 --> 00:08:59.700 entrepreneur and a writer. he 00:08:59.700 --> 00:09:01.620 determined that, hey look there's this 00:09:01.620 --> 00:09:03.750 great section of the United States that 00:09:03.750 --> 00:09:05.250 really ought to be set aside of what he 00:09:05.250 --> 00:09:07.650 called 'the nation's park'. let me read to 00:09:07.650 --> 00:09:10.800 you what he wrote and I believe it, yeah. 00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:12.360 I'll tell you exactly what the year was. 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:18.950 he wrote this in 1833. so Catlin 00:09:18.950 --> 00:09:21.500 became acutely aware that the balance of 00:09:21.500 --> 00:09:24.980 nature was being destroyed because robes 00:09:24.980 --> 00:09:27.950 were being made of bison and nothing 00:09:27.950 --> 00:09:29.960 else was being used of the meat and 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:31.490 where the Indians were being asked to 00:09:31.490 --> 00:09:33.740 hunt the bison, it would be paid in 00:09:33.740 --> 00:09:35.720 whiskey he thought this was a big 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.710 mistake in 1833. he goes on and what he 00:09:39.710 --> 00:09:42.500 wrote in his book letter and notes on 00:09:42.500 --> 00:09:44.450 the Manners, Customs and Conditions of 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:46.700 North American Indian he said this 00:09:46.700 --> 00:09:49.370 strip of country, this is roughly the strip he 00:09:49.370 --> 00:09:51.980 is talking about, which extends from the 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:54.110 province of Mexico to Lake Winnipeg on 00:09:54.110 --> 00:09:56.840 the north, is almost one entire plane of 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.670 grass which is an even must-be useless 00:10:01.670 --> 00:10:04.670 to cultivating man. Can you imagine that, 00:10:04.670 --> 00:10:08.600 useless to propogating man. It is 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:10.610 here and here 00:10:10.610 --> 00:10:14.720 chiefly that the Buffalo dwell and with and 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.210 hovering above them live and flourish 00:10:17.210 --> 00:10:21.080 the tribes of Indians whom God made for 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.810 the enjoyment of the fair land and its 00:10:23.810 --> 00:10:27.050 luxuries is a melancholy contemplation 00:10:27.050 --> 00:10:31.070 for me who has traveled as I have through the 00:10:31.070 --> 00:10:34.190 realms and seen this noble animal in all 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:37.190 its pride and glory to contemplate it so 00:10:37.190 --> 00:10:39.800 rapidly wasting from the world, drawing 00:10:39.800 --> 00:10:42.500 an irresistible conclusion too, which one 00:10:42.500 --> 00:10:46.010 must do, that its species is soon to be 00:10:46.010 --> 00:10:53.270 extinguished and with it the piece of 00:10:53.270 --> 00:10:57.920 happiness if not the actual existence of 00:10:57.920 --> 00:11:00.080 the tribes of Indians who are joint 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:02.810 tenants with them and occupant and 00:11:02.810 --> 00:11:07.580 occupancy of this vast and idle plain 00:11:07.580 --> 00:11:11.480 and what a splendid contemplation too when 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:14.360 one who has traveled these realms and 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.120 can duly appreciate them, imagines them 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.760 as they might in the future be seen by 00:11:19.760 --> 00:11:23.690 some great protecting policy of the 00:11:23.690 --> 00:11:27.590 government preserved in their pristine 00:11:27.590 --> 00:11:31.620 beauty and wildness and a magnificent 00:11:31.620 --> 00:11:34.140 where the world could see for ages to 00:11:34.140 --> 00:11:34.920 come. 00:11:34.920 --> 00:11:37.140 what a beautiful and thrilling specimen 00:11:37.140 --> 00:11:39.839 for America to preserve and hold up to 00:11:39.839 --> 00:11:42.960 the view for refined citizens in the 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:46.529 world and future ages: a national park 00:11:46.529 --> 00:11:50.580 containing man and beast and all the 00:11:50.580 --> 00:11:57.029 wild and freshness of their nature's beauty. 1833. 00:11:57.029 --> 00:11:58.260 I think that's some pretty forward 00:11:58.260 --> 00:12:00.660 thinking that even back then when you 00:12:00.660 --> 00:12:02.310 know we're really thinking about as the 00:12:02.310 --> 00:12:05.160 the American destiny is that we're 00:12:05.160 --> 00:12:06.660 thinking about how it is that we move 00:12:06.660 --> 00:12:09.120 how is it that we conquer these new 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:10.860 lands how do we push people out of these 00:12:10.860 --> 00:12:11.490 lands 00:12:11.490 --> 00:12:13.260 how do we make it profitable for ourselves? 00:12:13.260 --> 00:12:15.240 and you have one gentleman who is saying 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:19.170 'wait. maybe there is another purpose for these 00:12:19.170 --> 00:12:24.150 types of lands.' so George Catlin. you 00:12:24.150 --> 00:12:25.410 guys are more familiar with these two 00:12:25.410 --> 00:12:26.220 right? 00:12:26.220 --> 00:12:29.910 who are they? and John Muir, right, and 00:12:29.910 --> 00:12:32.100 so the reason I put Teddy up here and 00:12:32.100 --> 00:12:34.170 John Muir is this is, you know, one of 00:12:34.170 --> 00:12:36.480 those famous conversations because John 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:37.860 Muir was very concerned about the 00:12:37.860 --> 00:12:39.990 preservation of the world, and very concerned 00:12:39.990 --> 00:12:42.120 about Yosemite because there was a 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.029 person who was in charge of forestry 00:12:45.029 --> 00:12:46.740 under Teddy Roosevelt, and I heard his name over 00:12:46.740 --> 00:12:47.370 here 00:12:47.370 --> 00:12:50.010 Gifford Pinchot who is definitely that 00:12:50.010 --> 00:12:51.870 the what they would say the father and 00:12:51.870 --> 00:12:55.230 conservation or wise use of resources 00:12:55.230 --> 00:12:56.220 because you know when you look in the 00:12:56.220 --> 00:12:57.900 dictionary and you look up the word 00:12:57.900 --> 00:13:01.650 resource and what do you see? you see the 00:13:01.650 --> 00:13:05.459 definition says oil and gas and timber and 00:13:05.459 --> 00:13:07.110 coal. that's what we thought of as 00:13:07.110 --> 00:13:08.520 resources. today we don't think there's 00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:10.529 natural resources being those things 00:13:10.529 --> 00:13:12.660 necessarily it would be biology they 00:13:12.660 --> 00:13:14.670 would be plants and animals and nature 00:13:14.670 --> 00:13:17.730 things of that sort but in this 00:13:17.730 --> 00:13:18.720 conversation 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.490 You know, part of it is talking about Hetch-Hetchy 00:13:20.490 --> 00:13:23.850 and should you damn Hetch- Hetchy or not so 00:13:23.850 --> 00:13:25.589 you know Muir was the more of 00:13:25.589 --> 00:13:27.360 everything is connected to the land and 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.910 we got to preserve these very pristine 00:13:29.910 --> 00:13:32.760 and beautiful places. now Teddy Roosevelt 00:13:32.760 --> 00:13:34.620 becomes very instrumental in the 00:13:34.620 --> 00:13:37.230 National Park Service because in 1906 00:13:37.230 --> 00:13:39.089 Congress handed him a very unique law 00:13:39.089 --> 00:13:42.209 and now it's called the Antiquities Act and 00:13:42.209 --> 00:13:44.220 with the Antiquities Act, it gave the 00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:45.130 president 00:13:45.130 --> 00:13:47.410 actually the authority not Congress but 00:13:47.410 --> 00:13:49.840 the president the authority to set aside 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.110 land that were specifically, specifically 00:13:53.110 --> 00:13:56.380 for scientific novel or really to stop 00:13:56.380 --> 00:13:59.530 the pillaging of archaeological sites in 00:13:59.530 --> 00:14:00.640 the southwest. 00:14:00.640 --> 00:14:02.230 we're very concerned that a lot of our 00:14:02.230 --> 00:14:04.900 culture, we weren't calling it 'our heritage' 00:14:04.900 --> 00:14:08.920 at the time but a lot of our culture of America was disappearing as people were 00:14:08.920 --> 00:14:11.830 robbing from old Indian sites and there 00:14:11.830 --> 00:14:14.020 was, you can find a lot of our history in 00:14:14.020 --> 00:14:16.210 Europe and the museums instead of an 00:14:16.210 --> 00:14:18.580 American museum or better yet in America 00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:20.950 on the sites where they were originally found. 00:14:20.950 --> 00:14:25.000 so Teddy used that power of the pen and 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.640 he created lots of national parks but at 00:14:27.640 --> 00:14:28.900 that time they were called national monuments, 00:14:28.900 --> 00:14:31.390 places like the Grand Canyon, that was a 00:14:31.390 --> 00:14:33.790 national monument at first, Teddy Roosevelt created that site. he also 00:14:33.790 --> 00:14:35.710 started the National Wildlife 00:14:35.710 --> 00:14:38.590 Refuge System because as you all know Teddy 00:14:38.590 --> 00:14:40.510 Roosevelt was an avid hunter he also 00:14:40.510 --> 00:14:41.710 believed they need to protect the 00:14:41.710 --> 00:14:44.410 species so he started that process 00:14:44.410 --> 00:14:46.930 also. something like 33 different 00:14:46.930 --> 00:14:48.490 national monuments were created under Teddy Roosevelt. 00:14:48.490 --> 00:14:51.520 so he really believed in using his 00:14:51.520 --> 00:14:55.690 authority to protect our wildlands. you 00:14:55.690 --> 00:14:57.490 know the one thing I always like people 00:14:57.490 --> 00:14:59.890 to remember is just this: all the things 00:14:59.890 --> 00:15:02.200 that you'll see up on the screen that 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.630 tell about who we are it's really the 00:15:04.630 --> 00:15:07.240 National Park Service's Organic Act that 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.140 was established in 1916 by Congress and 00:15:11.140 --> 00:15:13.390 I would read it to you but I'm gonna let 00:15:13.390 --> 00:15:15.460 you read it yourself. I want to point out 00:15:15.460 --> 00:15:18.910 a couple things about it and I gotta 00:15:18.910 --> 00:15:20.170 remember where the point is, I think it's here. 00:15:20.170 --> 00:15:22.990 so you notice it says scenery 00:15:22.990 --> 00:15:25.570 and if you heard me talk before, I do 00:15:25.570 --> 00:15:27.610 like to talk about scenery because that 00:15:27.610 --> 00:15:29.890 word 'scenery' comes in there by a very 00:15:29.890 --> 00:15:32.410 famous landscape architect, anybody want 00:15:32.410 --> 00:15:33.790 to know who that was who made sure that 00:15:33.790 --> 00:15:38.260 word got in here? Olmstead. 00:15:38.260 --> 00:15:40.420 Frederick Law Olmsted. It's actually his son 00:15:40.420 --> 00:15:42.070 who made sure it got in here because Frederick 00:15:42.070 --> 00:15:44.830 Law had passed away and most of 00:15:44.830 --> 00:15:46.180 you know Frederick Law Olmstead because 00:15:46.180 --> 00:15:49.300 he designed Central Park and what else 00:15:49.300 --> 00:15:53.380 did he design? Yosemite Valley. 00:15:53.380 --> 00:15:55.900 oh yeah yosemite valley. so the way you 00:15:55.900 --> 00:15:58.150 go into the valley today and where you 00:15:58.150 --> 00:15:58.960 pull out with your 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.270 car and view the waterfall, that was 00:16:01.270 --> 00:16:03.640 Frederick Law Olmsted's design, of how that 00:16:03.640 --> 00:16:05.980 would be done. so that's how scenery gets 00:16:05.980 --> 00:16:08.380 in there. You, remember, scenery is a big 00:16:08.380 --> 00:16:12.010 part during the early 1900s 00:16:12.010 --> 00:16:13.720 because we as Americans are trying to figure 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.300 out who we are when we compare ourselves 00:16:16.300 --> 00:16:17.410 to the Old World, you know 00:16:17.410 --> 00:16:19.270 Europe, you know they had all these great 00:16:19.270 --> 00:16:22.360 man-made features but what we had were these 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.520 great natural features, these cathedrals 00:16:24.520 --> 00:16:27.400 like Yosemite and Yellowstone, and so 00:16:27.400 --> 00:16:29.830 scenery becomes very important but you 00:16:29.830 --> 00:16:31.990 also notice that it says natural and historic 00:16:31.990 --> 00:16:34.600 objects so keep that in mind and then 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:38.380 the wildlife... Hey Bryson, it spelled wildlife 00:16:38.380 --> 00:16:41.500 wrong again for me. I you know you guys 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:44.680 mm, is that spelled wrong? It is one word 00:16:44.680 --> 00:16:48.400 isn't it? yeah is that right, is that what 00:16:48.400 --> 00:16:50.290 happened. now actually Bryson didn't 00:16:50.290 --> 00:16:51.700 misspell it, that's actually how it is 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:53.590 spelled because Congress intended that be 00:16:53.590 --> 00:16:54.550 all nature. 00:16:54.550 --> 00:16:57.520 okay so we 00:16:57.520 --> 00:16:58.630 don't have these fancy words like 00:16:58.630 --> 00:17:00.490 ecosystem and things like that yet. 00:17:00.490 --> 00:17:02.980 alright so wildlife was purposely 00:17:02.980 --> 00:17:05.410 spelled this way. but look at this, it's 00:17:05.410 --> 00:17:07.930 to provide for the enjoyment of the same 00:17:07.930 --> 00:17:11.770 and such matter that will leave them 00:17:11.770 --> 00:17:15.130 unimpaired. that is the real trick whenever 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:16.720 you look at a national park and think 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.180 what's going on and why can't I do this, and 00:17:19.180 --> 00:17:22.270 why can't I do that, well part of that is 00:17:22.270 --> 00:17:23.950 because the managers are trying to figure 00:17:23.950 --> 00:17:26.800 out is that going to cause impairment, because if it's 00:17:26.800 --> 00:17:28.930 going to cause impairment Congress said 00:17:28.930 --> 00:17:32.830 no, you cannot allow that and it's it's very 00:17:32.830 --> 00:17:34.000 interesting under different 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.330 administrations this word it's 00:17:37.330 --> 00:17:40.390 redefined a few times. but look at it also says 00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:42.700 for the enjoyment of future generations 00:17:42.700 --> 00:17:45.190 some people have said you've got a dual 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:47.140 mandate National Park Service you're 00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:50.860 supposed to conserve unimpaired but for 00:17:50.860 --> 00:17:53.110 the enjoyment of future generations and 00:17:53.110 --> 00:17:55.720 how do we do that because as generations change 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.630 everybody's needs, desires, wants, they all 00:17:58.630 --> 00:18:01.900 change too. Well the courts have said National 00:18:01.900 --> 00:18:04.030 Park Service you can't provide enjoyment 00:18:04.030 --> 00:18:05.680 for future generations 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.380 unless you have conserved things 00:18:08.380 --> 00:18:11.290 unimpaired so it's not a dual mandate it's 00:18:11.290 --> 00:18:12.010 you have to do 00:18:12.010 --> 00:18:16.960 this and this before you can do this and 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:18.640 the courts have made a very clear so 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.650 that's been a big argument up into the 1990s 00:18:20.650 --> 00:18:24.130 how do you do that balance. so let me 00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:25.030 tell you a little bit more about Channel 00:18:25.030 --> 00:18:26.920 Islands so if you're not familiar with our 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:28.510 legislation, a few things I wanted to point 00:18:28.510 --> 00:18:31.030 out. the first one is, look, nationally 00:18:31.030 --> 00:18:34.150 significant we got natural there's that 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:35.710 word wildlife spelled correctly this 00:18:35.710 --> 00:18:38.410 time and marine, ecological, ok you don't 00:18:38.410 --> 00:18:39.610 need to read it but look at this world 00:18:39.610 --> 00:18:42.220 scientific values. 00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:45.340 that's very unusual in a park. this is one of the 00:18:45.340 --> 00:18:47.470 very unique parks, where they said science is 00:18:47.470 --> 00:18:50.770 important, science. and also administer on a 00:18:50.770 --> 00:18:54.220 low-intensity, limited-entry basis. what does 00:18:54.220 --> 00:18:56.410 that mean to you? well what it means is 00:18:56.410 --> 00:18:58.930 visitor use within the park used to be 00:18:58.930 --> 00:19:01.450 limited/ carrying capacity but look again, 00:19:01.450 --> 00:19:03.400 remember where it said impairment with our Organic 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.830 Act? look what it says here: to ensure 00:19:05.830 --> 00:19:09.580 negligible adverse impact and if 00:19:09.580 --> 00:19:11.080 you've heard me talk years ago I always 00:19:11.080 --> 00:19:13.360 would ask people how much is negligible. 00:19:13.360 --> 00:19:17.200 Is it this much, or this much? Tell 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.180 me how much negligible is, you know, 00:19:19.180 --> 00:19:20.740 that's really up to the manager to try to 00:19:20.740 --> 00:19:22.960 figure out but also look at special 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:25.210 fragility and sensitivity of park resources. 00:19:25.210 --> 00:19:27.130 That's what makes the Channel Islands a pretty 00:19:27.130 --> 00:19:31.240 tough place to manage. so let's talk 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:34.150 about some of the challenges that I've 00:19:34.150 --> 00:19:35.950 tried to deal with since I've been here. 00:19:35.950 --> 00:19:37.390 you all know about the creation of 00:19:37.390 --> 00:19:39.820 marine reserves that was done. a lot of 00:19:39.820 --> 00:19:42.370 the idea of coming about and looking 00:19:42.370 --> 00:19:44.560 at a new way to manage fisheries was 00:19:44.560 --> 00:19:46.240 based on a lot of long-term research- 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:48.700 science- that was done in this park. 00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:51.550 looking principally at abalone but 00:19:51.550 --> 00:19:54.760 also because Anacapa Cove had been closed 00:19:54.760 --> 00:19:58.420 to all fishing since 1981, so you could 00:19:58.420 --> 00:20:00.040 go in that area and see, what does an area 00:20:00.040 --> 00:20:02.800 look like that might resemble some form 00:20:02.800 --> 00:20:05.080 of naturalness and what you could see were 00:20:05.080 --> 00:20:06.610 big differences from areas that were 00:20:06.610 --> 00:20:09.520 fished versus areas that weren't fished. So that led the state of 00:20:09.520 --> 00:20:11.710 California to look at maybe a different way 00:20:11.710 --> 00:20:14.200 to manage fisheries resources and so 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.330 here you have, oh, i'm sorry 00:20:16.330 --> 00:20:21.730 the... you have the marine reserves and 00:20:21.730 --> 00:20:24.100 then the conservation area that set 00:20:24.100 --> 00:20:25.920 that are set up around the island. 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.170 now you realize that our boundary only 00:20:28.170 --> 00:20:30.810 goes out one nautical mile this dotted 00:20:30.810 --> 00:20:33.570 line is the state's boundary and it goes 00:20:33.570 --> 00:20:35.370 out three nautical miles and then you 00:20:35.370 --> 00:20:36.900 get this darker boundary which is the 00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:39.420 National Marine Sanctuary. so within that 00:20:39.420 --> 00:20:41.610 one mile we got, we have three people 00:20:41.610 --> 00:20:44.280 doing jurisdiction: National Park Service 00:20:44.280 --> 00:20:46.770 and of course the state here and 00:20:46.770 --> 00:20:48.630 the marine sanctuary, and then the marine 00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:50.760 sanctuary has this whole area also. 00:20:50.760 --> 00:20:55.380 and you all know that we do we do manage 00:20:55.380 --> 00:20:57.420 this cooperatively with the Nature 00:20:57.420 --> 00:20:59.940 Conservancy. Santa Cruz Island, the west 00:20:59.940 --> 00:21:02.940 half or actually three 00:21:02.940 --> 00:21:05.490 quarters basically of Santa Cruz is 00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:07.410 managed by the Nature Conservancy, and 00:21:07.410 --> 00:21:08.730 then this part by the National Park Service 00:21:08.730 --> 00:21:10.920 and then this is owned by the United 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:14.070 States Navy. right but we managed it 00:21:14.070 --> 00:21:22.650 with the navy. well yeah that's a good 00:21:22.650 --> 00:21:24.540 question for the Nature Conservancy and 00:21:24.540 --> 00:21:27.540 I can't speak for them but you know that 00:21:27.540 --> 00:21:28.920 for the Nature Conservancy they're not 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.110 traditionally a land holder but you 00:21:31.110 --> 00:21:33.150 know this is a very important piece of 00:21:33.150 --> 00:21:34.860 property for them because you know they 00:21:34.860 --> 00:21:37.050 have a constituency and 00:21:37.050 --> 00:21:39.000 they've done some remarkable ecological 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:42.330 restoration in partnership with us and 00:21:42.330 --> 00:21:44.460 and by them owning land and by them 00:21:44.460 --> 00:21:46.500 practicing ecological principles and 00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:48.570 doing some of these restoration projects 00:21:48.570 --> 00:21:50.550 they are actually better at trying to 00:21:50.550 --> 00:21:52.800 export that technology to other 00:21:52.800 --> 00:21:54.930 countries and help them accomplish some 00:21:54.930 --> 00:21:56.100 of their ecological restoration 00:21:56.100 --> 00:21:59.670 challenges. now you all know that we had 00:21:59.670 --> 00:22:02.730 rats right well remember that 00:22:02.730 --> 00:22:04.110 and you probably all know we were sued 00:22:04.110 --> 00:22:06.960 over getting rid of the rats. now 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:08.640 that happened you know right before I 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.340 came but and you all know that we had 00:22:11.340 --> 00:22:14.430 pigs and that happened while I was here 00:22:14.430 --> 00:22:16.440 it was the eradication of the pigs and you know 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:21.660 one of my... well it's sad when you see 00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:23.070 your picture in the newspaper and 00:22:23.070 --> 00:22:26.760 posted in the hall of shame but you know 00:22:26.760 --> 00:22:28.980 these are these are hard decisions 00:22:28.980 --> 00:22:31.110 making ecological decisions are very 00:22:31.110 --> 00:22:33.420 difficult and they're difficult because 00:22:33.420 --> 00:22:36.390 there are no easy answers and we always 00:22:36.390 --> 00:22:38.220 seem to forget how did these things get here 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:39.299 to start with 00:22:39.299 --> 00:22:41.519 and somebody made a decision 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:43.289 maybe not the rats they may have had the 00:22:43.289 --> 00:22:45.149 decision of the ship wreck but on the 00:22:45.149 --> 00:22:47.039 pigs somebody made the decision to put 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:48.899 pigs out there and so I would make a 00:22:48.899 --> 00:22:49.860 decision 00:22:49.860 --> 00:22:52.350 to take the pigs off. you know but it was always just surrounded 00:22:52.350 --> 00:22:54.659 in a little controversy but the reason 00:22:54.659 --> 00:22:56.249 we're getting rid of the rats was 00:22:56.249 --> 00:22:59.759 because of the murrelets right 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.399 The Xantus murrelet, now, that's what we called it 00:23:02.399 --> 00:23:04.830 then: Xantus murrelet, now what's it called now? the Scripps's 00:23:04.830 --> 00:23:07.619 Murrelet right and so now take a look at 00:23:07.619 --> 00:23:11.159 this, because of the work we did 00:23:11.159 --> 00:23:12.509 now how many you know all about the 00:23:12.509 --> 00:23:14.609 Scripps's Murrelet? 00:23:14.609 --> 00:23:17.100 ok so a few of you. so you know that, you 00:23:17.100 --> 00:23:18.899 know, most seabirds in general mostly 00:23:18.899 --> 00:23:21.989 birds once they hatch from their eggs 00:23:21.989 --> 00:23:24.299 and then they go visit mom now these 00:23:24.299 --> 00:23:25.679 this case when they're about two years 00:23:25.679 --> 00:23:29.190 old they're about the size of a cotton ball, they jump 00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:31.830 off Anacapa Island you know, if you've ever been there, two 00:23:31.830 --> 00:23:34.559 days old, right, two days old, they jump off 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.799 this hundred-plus foot cliff sometimes 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:38.879 they miss it 00:23:38.879 --> 00:23:40.919 most times they don't. they bounce all 00:23:40.919 --> 00:23:43.559 the way down and they hit the water and they 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:45.989 get on mom's back and go back to the 00:23:45.989 --> 00:23:48.929 nest and then they eventually fledge and 00:23:48.929 --> 00:23:49.950 then they only come back when they're 00:23:49.950 --> 00:23:52.590 sexually mature. so I would think we 00:23:52.590 --> 00:23:54.629 should give this bird chance to live I 00:23:54.629 --> 00:23:56.519 mean like that's a pretty hard life but 00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:58.169 when you got rats eating your eggs or 00:23:58.169 --> 00:24:00.509 even sometimes the adult birds then you 00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:03.840 know they could easily disappear so I 00:24:03.840 --> 00:24:05.489 want you to know that with all the work 00:24:05.489 --> 00:24:07.409 we've done on the Scripps's Murrelet and 00:24:07.409 --> 00:24:09.299 also the work that's been happening in 00:24:09.299 --> 00:24:13.379 Mexico and the Coronado's that we have 00:24:13.379 --> 00:24:16.109 been able to bring this bird back and in 00:24:16.109 --> 00:24:18.840 fact these were some of the headlines 00:24:18.840 --> 00:24:20.759 from the Fish and Wildlife Service news 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.559 release island restoration supports 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.159 conservation to specific species in 00:24:26.159 --> 00:24:27.899 seabird. Now what they're talking about is 00:24:27.899 --> 00:24:32.220 the Scripps's and the Guadalupe Merlins in 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:35.009 this case so what we were able to do is 00:24:35.009 --> 00:24:37.409 protect this animal and prevent it from 00:24:37.409 --> 00:24:38.999 having to go on the endangered-species list by 00:24:38.999 --> 00:24:41.129 being a little bit proactive like getting 00:24:41.129 --> 00:24:45.090 rid of a non-native animal the rat. but 00:24:45.090 --> 00:24:46.080 you know there's other things we've done 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:47.820 for seabirds that we don't often hear 00:24:47.820 --> 00:24:50.009 about and one is the actual restoration 00:24:50.009 --> 00:24:52.480 of the land. so this is Scorpion 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.480 Rock. look at Scorpion Rock in March of 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.980 2007 and look at it in February 2015. 00:24:59.980 --> 00:25:01.840 this was all about getting non-native plants 00:25:01.840 --> 00:25:03.910 off and then starting a nursery and 00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:05.980 putting native plants back on and so now 00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:07.450 what we're seeing are birds coming back 00:25:07.450 --> 00:25:10.299 to this little islet and nesting 00:25:10.299 --> 00:25:11.919 and then they're very well protected 00:25:11.919 --> 00:25:13.780 this was closed to people so it's not 00:25:13.780 --> 00:25:15.130 just getting rid of the non native 00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:17.080 animals sometimes you have to have to 00:25:17.080 --> 00:25:19.299 restore some of the habitat that's 00:25:19.299 --> 00:25:22.780 been overrun by non-native species of 00:25:22.780 --> 00:25:23.770 vegetation 00:25:23.770 --> 00:25:26.650 well I don't know what happened there 00:25:26.650 --> 00:25:30.280 but i must have been a briefing yet so 00:25:30.280 --> 00:25:31.809 then there was the fox right the whole 00:25:31.809 --> 00:25:34.929 fox situation and that was, that really 00:25:34.929 --> 00:25:36.640 came into play as soon as I got here. the 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.490 first thing that Tim Coonan handed me when I 00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:41.230 came into the office was, you know the 00:25:41.230 --> 00:25:42.640 previous superintendent wouldn't sign 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.100 the fox restoration plan, will 00:25:45.100 --> 00:25:48.010 you sign it? and so I was like, well I thought I was 00:25:48.010 --> 00:25:49.600 here to help restore these islands and so i 00:25:49.600 --> 00:25:51.100 read through and said this is really a 00:25:51.100 --> 00:25:51.820 good plan and so 00:25:51.820 --> 00:25:53.320 I signed it and start putting it in 00:25:53.320 --> 00:25:56.260 place and within a year- now i can tell 00:25:56.260 --> 00:25:58.090 you it's a lot easier to restore a 00:25:58.090 --> 00:25:59.890 species if it's not on the endangered 00:25:59.890 --> 00:26:02.169 species list, but when it's on, there are some 00:26:02.169 --> 00:26:04.960 rules you have to go by. but you know we 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.880 had all the foxes like on Santa Rosa, 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.100 they were all in captivity and then on 00:26:09.100 --> 00:26:11.650 San Miguel, they were all in captivity, and on Santa Cruz 00:26:11.650 --> 00:26:14.679 a majority of them were in captivity and I 00:26:14.679 --> 00:26:16.240 want you to know because of all the 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.580 support from the public is that you all 00:26:18.580 --> 00:26:20.980 got behind us, we were able to get money, 00:26:20.980 --> 00:26:22.540 the Nature Conservancy was able to get 00:26:22.540 --> 00:26:25.179 money, people like you gave money; you know I 00:26:25.179 --> 00:26:26.919 can't tell you how many school kids 00:26:26.919 --> 00:26:30.490 donated pennies to the Friends of the Island Fox 00:26:30.490 --> 00:26:33.010 to buy radio collars so that we could put them 00:26:33.010 --> 00:26:35.770 on the foxes. it was this year in the 00:26:35.770 --> 00:26:37.990 centennial, what a great birthday present, 00:26:37.990 --> 00:26:39.460 the fox was taken off the endangered 00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:41.919 species list. fastest recovery of a 00:26:41.919 --> 00:26:43.929 mammal off the endangered species list in the 00:26:43.929 --> 00:26:46.600 history of the Endangered Species Act. you know and a 00:26:46.600 --> 00:26:48.490 lot of that was because you all support what 00:26:48.490 --> 00:26:50.380 we're doing and I have to say thank you 00:26:50.380 --> 00:26:52.120 for doing that is, because you could have made 00:26:52.120 --> 00:26:56.559 this a very rough challenge for us. but 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:57.730 what about, we all know about the bald 00:26:57.730 --> 00:26:58.660 eagle, right? 00:26:58.660 --> 00:27:00.880 no no we didn't have any bald eagles, why 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.940 didn't we have any bald eagles because DDT 00:27:03.940 --> 00:27:05.950 right so we had 00:27:05.950 --> 00:27:07.690 to try and figure out, you put them back 00:27:07.690 --> 00:27:10.299 and they were always here so one of the 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:11.769 things we always talk about in ecosystem 00:27:11.769 --> 00:27:13.809 management is it's like building a 00:27:13.809 --> 00:27:16.210 puzzle right like building a puzzle 00:27:16.210 --> 00:27:17.529 there's nothing more frustrating when 00:27:17.529 --> 00:27:19.570 you go to build that puzzle to find out 00:27:19.570 --> 00:27:21.549 that you're missing a piece, right, you 00:27:21.549 --> 00:27:22.809 look all over the place, you look on the 00:27:22.809 --> 00:27:25.870 floor, you can't find it. ok well here's one 00:27:25.870 --> 00:27:28.120 of the missing pieces: the eagle and then 00:27:28.120 --> 00:27:29.289 you find out when you're building it 00:27:29.289 --> 00:27:33.220 you've got too many pieces right as I go 00:27:33.220 --> 00:27:34.419 well how'd that happened well those are your 00:27:34.419 --> 00:27:36.250 non-natives so it gets really 00:27:36.250 --> 00:27:37.330 frustrating when you're trying to build 00:27:37.330 --> 00:27:38.860 that ecosystem puzzle. 00:27:38.860 --> 00:27:40.600 this is one of the ones we want to we 00:27:40.600 --> 00:27:42.700 want to put back yeah and there's lots 00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:44.440 of great stories that we have about 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.929 bald eagles. lots and lots of stories. 00:27:46.929 --> 00:27:49.809 but here's what I want you to know is on 00:27:49.809 --> 00:27:51.429 the northern Channel Islands, 9 00:27:51.429 --> 00:27:54.850 breeding pairs, at least 14 eggs last year 00:27:54.850 --> 00:27:57.039 its percentage, i'm not going to 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.460 read all those to you, 8 chicks fledged and 00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:02.230 this is where Princess Cruz is, 00:28:02.230 --> 00:28:04.210 it's over on, that was the one, you know the one who was born 00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:08.529 here. now look down below here, this is 00:28:08.529 --> 00:28:10.660 the Pacific Region Bald Eagle Recovery 00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:11.350 Plan. 00:28:11.350 --> 00:28:15.460 these are the goals of the plan and 00:28:15.460 --> 00:28:18.130 here's where we are: all islands at 00:28:18.130 --> 00:28:20.799 sixty-three percent success rate or just 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:24.039 off the goal, fledglings attempts, they 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.320 want 1, her nest, we're at .95 00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:30.880 so almost there. So it could be the last couple 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.080 years, the drought could have played a 00:28:32.080 --> 00:28:34.120 big a big role in that 00:28:34.120 --> 00:28:36.700 but the but the beauty is you can now go 00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:38.380 to the Channel Islands and see bald eagles. 00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:41.110 well here's one we never hardly ever 00:28:41.110 --> 00:28:42.549 talk about because most people don't 00:28:42.549 --> 00:28:46.149 know that we re-established peregrines out 00:28:46.149 --> 00:28:50.620 there too, right peregrines, and you know I 00:28:50.620 --> 00:28:52.240 love this one it's like everybody show 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.190 me your ring finger you know here 00:28:54.190 --> 00:28:56.049 because we can see all these little 00:28:56.049 --> 00:28:58.059 tags, you can't see them here and here but here 00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:03.309 but yeah actually do you not love these guys but 00:29:03.309 --> 00:29:05.139 you know we look at their their success 00:29:05.139 --> 00:29:09.610 over time and again let's look at the 00:29:09.610 --> 00:29:12.519 target is sixty-eight percent and 1.5 and 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:13.450 look where we are 00:29:13.450 --> 00:29:16.720 a nest success for peregrine falcons 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.650 and productivity 00:29:18.650 --> 00:29:20.780 so now you go out there and see 00:29:20.780 --> 00:29:25.220 peregrine falcons that was the pieces that was missing and 00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:26.810 this should give you some idea what the 00:29:26.810 --> 00:29:29.330 trend is for a peregrine falcons now the 00:29:29.330 --> 00:29:32.270 reason you see this gap here is that 00:29:32.270 --> 00:29:33.770 there wasn't a lot of monitoring going 00:29:33.770 --> 00:29:37.280 on between 2007 and then we got a- I'll 00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:38.600 call it a bucket of money- from the 00:29:38.600 --> 00:29:41.240 Montrose Settlement Funds which was the 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.330 DDT lawsuit we were able to look at them 00:29:44.330 --> 00:29:46.880 in eagles more comprehensibly but you 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.100 can see we're on a good upward trend for 00:29:49.100 --> 00:29:51.110 numbers of territories of peregrine 00:29:51.110 --> 00:29:55.370 falcons. give you some idea where they are. 00:29:55.370 --> 00:29:58.430 yeah isn't that amazing? 00:29:58.430 --> 00:30:01.550 I you know I looked at I was saying, my goodness 00:30:01.550 --> 00:30:03.050 can we get any more peregrine falcons 00:30:03.050 --> 00:30:05.390 on San Miguel and then they said 00:30:05.390 --> 00:30:06.560 well why are you looking at San Miguel, 00:30:06.560 --> 00:30:09.050 look at Anacapa you know. 00:30:09.050 --> 00:30:13.970 yeah look how small it is. what's that? and 00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:15.680 it does right and and we're going to do 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.420 something even more unique and I'm going 00:30:17.420 --> 00:30:19.520 to talk about it now. here is we're going 00:30:19.520 --> 00:30:23.540 to put a cam- one of those webcams- on a 00:30:23.540 --> 00:30:25.610 peregrine nest and it will be the 00:30:25.610 --> 00:30:27.560 first webcam that we've been told of a 00:30:27.560 --> 00:30:28.820 wild 00:30:28.820 --> 00:30:31.160 nest. all the other ones you see are on 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:32.060 buildings 00:30:32.060 --> 00:30:33.470 and this is gonna be one of the first ones so 00:30:33.470 --> 00:30:34.400 you're going to be able to watch 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.680 hopefully peregrines from, you know, the comfort 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.840 of your home having breakfast in bed and 00:30:38.840 --> 00:30:42.650 would be kind of nice. so you know I had 00:30:42.650 --> 00:30:44.720 some infrastructure problems and as you 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.120 know this one was a headache for most of 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:50.630 us and that's the course the new the new 00:30:50.630 --> 00:30:53.750 stairwell on Anacapa. we replaced the 00:30:53.750 --> 00:30:57.440 pier at Santa Rosa I remember my first 00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.390 trip to the pier with my daughter who was 00:30:59.390 --> 00:31:02.510 two and Dwight Willie saying oh I'll carry her 00:31:02.510 --> 00:31:05.930 to the dock and as the boat hit the 00:31:05.930 --> 00:31:07.250 side of the pier, and you guys know 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:08.690 as the boat hit the side of the pier and you just hear 00:31:08.690 --> 00:31:10.910 this ratcheting back and forth and I'm thinking 00:31:10.910 --> 00:31:12.890 oh my goodness but what have I gotten 00:31:12.890 --> 00:31:14.840 into. you know when you're biologist you're 00:31:14.840 --> 00:31:15.980 hoping to come here and do a lot of 00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:18.650 biology and cultural resources and when you 00:31:18.650 --> 00:31:19.460 come here and you have to do 00:31:19.460 --> 00:31:21.680 infrastructure problem challenges it's 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.980 a little tougher for us. you remember that's 00:31:24.980 --> 00:31:26.900 the old Anacapa stairway, remember 00:31:26.900 --> 00:31:29.900 that we actually had to put PVC pipe on the 00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:31.880 handrail because they were rusting away 00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:32.419 so 00:31:32.419 --> 00:31:33.980 poorly that you would slide your hand 00:31:33.980 --> 00:31:36.139 down you would cut yourself and pieces 00:31:36.139 --> 00:31:37.639 of slag were falling off and then 00:31:37.639 --> 00:31:40.489 hitting people in the head so that was 00:31:40.489 --> 00:31:42.859 quite the challenge to get that fixed. 00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:46.309 but you know the other thing was the we 00:31:46.309 --> 00:31:47.720 took on the old schoolhouse on the 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.119 Santa Rosa ranch and remember this is 00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.759 what it used to look like and now what 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:53.929 we've done is we put it back to its 00:31:53.929 --> 00:31:55.970 original size so the original 00:31:55.970 --> 00:31:57.529 schoolhouse assistance building right 00:31:57.529 --> 00:32:01.909 here so now we're back to the the period 00:32:01.909 --> 00:32:03.980 of significance for the Santa Rosa school house 00:32:03.980 --> 00:32:05.749 instead of being converted to a 00:32:05.749 --> 00:32:07.879 residence for somebody so if you go out 00:32:07.879 --> 00:32:09.379 there today you'll see a little bit 00:32:09.379 --> 00:32:13.039 different building. In fact there it is 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.899 there you go. 00:32:14.899 --> 00:32:18.950 now let's talk about some challenges. 00:32:18.950 --> 00:32:21.739 ok yeah, so and then you're going to say 00:32:21.739 --> 00:32:23.450 well yeah but you forgot that one and 00:32:23.450 --> 00:32:24.799 you forgot that one so I didn't want to 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:26.659 be here all night so I didn't want to 00:32:26.659 --> 00:32:28.850 get them all here tonight but here's one 00:32:28.850 --> 00:32:29.480 the big one 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.470 Anacapa crane. so condemned that crane 00:32:33.470 --> 00:32:35.600 I don't even know how many years ago but 00:32:35.600 --> 00:32:38.149 it takes time to get money and it's been 00:32:38.149 --> 00:32:40.970 in line and then so you all understand 00:32:40.970 --> 00:32:43.340 when we go to get money we compete on a 00:32:43.340 --> 00:32:46.070 national basis and so they look at all 00:32:46.070 --> 00:32:47.480 the parks and what are their needs for 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.399 line item construction and then decide 00:32:49.399 --> 00:32:51.470 who's going to get what money when. 00:32:51.470 --> 00:32:52.549 so we thought we were gonna get money in 00:32:52.549 --> 00:32:54.889 2016 and then somebody else important enough 00:32:54.889 --> 00:32:57.440 it looks like 2018 00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.330 we're going to finally get a new Anacapa 00:32:59.330 --> 00:33:03.289 crane and my staff will be so happy when 00:33:03.289 --> 00:33:06.799 that happens so we have to quit lugging 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.840 things up the stairs but also we won't 00:33:08.840 --> 00:33:12.499 have to use anymore to take stuff out there so 00:33:12.499 --> 00:33:14.690 Anacapa crane on the horizon. 00:33:14.690 --> 00:33:18.350 oh so that's a great question 00:33:18.350 --> 00:33:20.690 so we pull in and there's actually a 00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:23.179 pipe that comes in right here and so 00:33:23.179 --> 00:33:25.279 either with the barge but what we've determined we 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:26.629 can actually do it cheaper with the Ocean 00:33:26.629 --> 00:33:28.789 Ranger with some big tanks and we use a 00:33:28.789 --> 00:33:31.369 large fire pumps and then we actually 00:33:31.369 --> 00:33:33.499 push the water all the way up to the 00:33:33.499 --> 00:33:40.100 water building factories. and uh and 00:33:40.100 --> 00:33:41.359 Sterling is going to come talk to you 00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:43.730 about this at the next conversation that 00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:45.650 he has on Shore to Sea but this 00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:47.300 the veil and vicars our ranch house 00:33:47.300 --> 00:33:50.900 built i believe in 1890 and so 00:33:50.900 --> 00:33:52.880 you know has no foundation, bet you 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.160 didn't know that, I bet you didn't know it doesn't 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.320 have any shear wall protection I bet you 00:33:57.320 --> 00:33:58.760 didn't know it still has two wire 00:33:58.760 --> 00:34:02.360 electricity it needs a new roof and it 00:34:02.360 --> 00:34:05.030 sort of ratcheting so Sterling is going 00:34:05.030 --> 00:34:07.160 to oversee a project to put a foundation 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:08.690 on and get some new windows in it get a 00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:11.630 new roof on it and make sure that we can 00:34:11.630 --> 00:34:13.630 protect this historic resource and share it 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.800 with the public and tell the story of 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.169 the ranch in years on the island. now 00:34:18.169 --> 00:34:21.200 what you're going to also notice when 00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:24.169 you go out there is unfortunately this 00:34:24.169 --> 00:34:26.419 tree right here is part of the problem. 00:34:26.419 --> 00:34:28.730 we thought we could save it. I've already 00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:30.530 received numerous letters, I'm not looking for 00:34:30.530 --> 00:34:33.050 anymore so just to be honest with you I have 00:34:33.050 --> 00:34:34.399 received numerous letters about not 00:34:34.399 --> 00:34:36.919 cutting that tree and and I appreciate 00:34:36.919 --> 00:34:38.780 not cutting the tree because they do add 00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:41.330 character to the house so we're gonna we're going to 00:34:41.330 --> 00:34:43.280 go ahead and start growing a new 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.040 cypress tree so that when we do have to 00:34:46.040 --> 00:34:47.419 take this one out we can start to bring 00:34:47.419 --> 00:34:49.669 a new one back up and try and rebuild that 00:34:49.669 --> 00:34:51.530 framing of the house with the cypress tree 00:34:51.530 --> 00:34:54.320 in the future but right now it is it's 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:55.250 in a bad place. 00:34:55.250 --> 00:34:59.450 no it's not native, it's not native but 00:34:59.450 --> 00:35:01.610 because of cultural landscapes we 00:35:01.610 --> 00:35:03.140 try and keep some the integrity of 00:35:03.140 --> 00:35:04.730 the landscape and since it's a 00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:07.820 non-invasive tree in that area what we 00:35:07.820 --> 00:35:09.410 feel okay that we can manage it and we can 00:35:09.410 --> 00:35:11.300 put it back to non-invasive 00:35:11.300 --> 00:35:12.680 There's other areas where we want to look at 00:35:12.680 --> 00:35:14.840 trees and be careful what we put back because we 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.730 don't want to create an invasive problem. 00:35:16.730 --> 00:35:21.440 so here's something keeps me up at 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.170 night when you get that call that says 00:35:24.170 --> 00:35:26.840 oh did you know there's a squid boat on 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:30.740 your beach and my first question is or 00:35:30.740 --> 00:35:36.500 thought is... what do you think it is? rats. 00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:41.570 that's what I think-rats- so we're 00:35:41.570 --> 00:35:43.010 actually working on a biosecurity 00:35:43.010 --> 00:35:44.540 plan and gonna work with the squid 00:35:44.540 --> 00:35:46.910 fishery to see how is it that maybe we 00:35:46.910 --> 00:35:49.130 can react very quickly to put rat bait 00:35:49.130 --> 00:35:51.500 on these boats immediately so when they 00:35:51.500 --> 00:35:52.910 go ashore because this one was actually 00:35:52.910 --> 00:35:54.080 high and dry. 00:35:54.080 --> 00:35:57.110 I mean can you see it's actually land right here 00:35:57.110 --> 00:36:00.230 and it found the only rock at 00:36:00.230 --> 00:36:00.980 Skunk Point. 00:36:00.980 --> 00:36:02.690 I mean it's unbelievable like the only 00:36:02.690 --> 00:36:06.590 rock, and I'll tell you, the owner was very 00:36:06.590 --> 00:36:08.780 very cooperative we did get rat 00:36:08.780 --> 00:36:10.400 poison out there he said his ship was 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.830 clean. it was very clean 00:36:12.830 --> 00:36:15.170 we had no worry but what happens if we 00:36:15.170 --> 00:36:17.270 do get a dirty boat out there and it does 00:36:17.270 --> 00:36:19.160 have rats on it? 00:36:19.160 --> 00:36:21.830 yeah we've got only about 48 hours to 00:36:21.830 --> 00:36:24.560 try and get get the rats at 48 hours 00:36:24.560 --> 00:36:26.840 they can penetrate into the island so we 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:28.250 have that keeps me up. 00:36:28.250 --> 00:36:31.280 we've had five boat groundings this past year. 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.440 now the other thing, 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.390 yeah they're not all squid boats, a lot of them are 00:36:35.390 --> 00:36:38.840 pleasure craft we've had one sink also 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.730 for the thing that you all probably 00:36:40.730 --> 00:36:42.770 don't know if you all drove here you know 00:36:42.770 --> 00:36:44.990 you had to have car insurance right 00:36:44.990 --> 00:36:48.440 you know boaters don't have that kind of thing. you can 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.770 but how many do? and so it's really up to 00:36:51.770 --> 00:36:53.450 vessel assist to try and figure out are 00:36:53.450 --> 00:36:55.190 they going to get reimbursed? there is no 00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:56.540 federal pot of money. 00:36:56.540 --> 00:36:57.920 there's a federal pot of money to get 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.440 all the oil and greases off the boat but 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.450 not get the boat off the rocks. 00:37:02.450 --> 00:37:04.310 well then it becomes a problem for the 00:37:04.310 --> 00:37:06.920 sanctuary and myself just because, now we got 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:08.540 this boat and what happens if it breaks up 00:37:08.540 --> 00:37:11.540 and we got a mess everywhere so that 00:37:11.540 --> 00:37:12.740 that keeps me up. 00:37:12.740 --> 00:37:16.460 (murmuring) oh he got pulled off 00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:18.440 yeah he got pulled, he paid he he paid 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.920 everything to a salvage company and 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.080 everything came off nicely without, well 00:37:24.080 --> 00:37:28.100 he had quite a bit of damage to his boat but.. 00:37:28.100 --> 00:37:30.590 What's that? he did save the boat 00:37:30.590 --> 00:37:32.120 yeah, they had to put floats on it right 00:37:32.120 --> 00:37:34.040 away because it did have a considerable hole 00:37:34.040 --> 00:37:37.850 in it. so I like to use this cartoon 00:37:37.850 --> 00:37:40.760 to talk to you a little about climate change. Now I 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:42.200 understand the environment may be 00:37:42.200 --> 00:37:43.730 changing and we won't be talking about 00:37:43.730 --> 00:37:46.670 climate change for while but even if we're 00:37:46.670 --> 00:37:48.230 not talking about it I'm going to talk 00:37:48.230 --> 00:37:49.070 to you about it. 00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:52.280 ok and I'm going to talk to you about it 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.200 because it really means something more 00:37:54.200 --> 00:37:56.510 to me than it does most. so this was Santa 00:37:56.510 --> 00:37:59.030 Barbara one year ago 00:37:59.030 --> 00:38:01.910 Santa Barbara landing cove on the 00:38:01.910 --> 00:38:03.710 island one year ago. 00:38:03.710 --> 00:38:08.390 ok remember that El Nino we were 00:38:08.390 --> 00:38:09.680 supposed to have 00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:12.890 and all the rain we got last year? ok 00:38:12.890 --> 00:38:15.500 right. We didn't get any rain but we got a 00:38:15.500 --> 00:38:18.470 very angry ocean very angry. we saw 00:38:18.470 --> 00:38:23.300 20-foot swells out here. now I couldn't 00:38:23.300 --> 00:38:24.680 find the most recent picture but this 00:38:24.680 --> 00:38:27.109 pile is no longer there, that pile is no 00:38:27.109 --> 00:38:28.099 longer there, 00:38:28.099 --> 00:38:30.740 that pile is no longer there, and that 00:38:30.740 --> 00:38:32.569 the crane is because the crane is on a 00:38:32.569 --> 00:38:35.329 pedestal- concrete pedestal- down here and 00:38:35.329 --> 00:38:37.400 it's mounted to it so we have had some 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.040 engineers go take a look at it and we've 00:38:40.040 --> 00:38:41.630 done the bathymetry and we're hoping 00:38:41.630 --> 00:38:43.280 to get some money to try and get this 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.540 back open within the year so Santa 00:38:47.540 --> 00:38:49.880 Barbara will remain closed for a period 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.369 of time. 00:38:52.369 --> 00:38:57.050 ok so then there is Scorpion and 00:38:57.050 --> 00:38:59.480 so a lot of people if you don't 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.160 know the story the others like will 00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:02.390 Russell why don't you tell us 00:39:02.390 --> 00:39:05.270 okay well I actually had done an engineering 00:39:05.270 --> 00:39:07.579 analysis on this pier a couple years ago 00:39:07.579 --> 00:39:09.440 and that's why we have these 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.960 guardrails put up, because they found that, you 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.339 know that would help strengthen the pier 00:39:13.339 --> 00:39:15.710 a little bit because they're welded onto 00:39:15.710 --> 00:39:18.710 this bridge. now you all know this is a 00:39:18.710 --> 00:39:22.520 rail car, a flat bed rail car. So 00:39:22.520 --> 00:39:24.530 California's like the only state that 00:39:24.530 --> 00:39:27.049 adaptively reuses rail cars. It's a great 00:39:27.049 --> 00:39:27.770 idea. 00:39:27.770 --> 00:39:29.059 unfortunately they don't hold up very 00:39:29.059 --> 00:39:32.180 well in marine environments they rust pretty 00:39:32.180 --> 00:39:35.930 quick. and so after this little storm I 00:39:35.930 --> 00:39:37.790 had them go out and take a look and the 00:39:37.790 --> 00:39:39.680 engineer came back and said he didn't 00:39:39.680 --> 00:39:41.329 believe that the railcar could hold its 00:39:41.329 --> 00:39:45.410 own weight. so then the question was, well how 00:39:45.410 --> 00:39:47.000 many passengers can you allow to go on 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:50.059 that pier. and there was a mitigation 00:39:50.059 --> 00:39:52.280 we I could have allowed people to go out 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:53.930 on that pier if we would have, if Island Packers 00:39:53.930 --> 00:39:55.730 been out there every 00:39:55.730 --> 00:39:58.190 time and we would have had water jugs 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:00.500 set up on the pier that would mimic the 00:40:00.500 --> 00:40:02.720 weight and they would fill up the jugs 00:40:02.720 --> 00:40:05.390 and if it if it held up then you could 00:40:05.390 --> 00:40:08.059 let people off and then every time you 00:40:08.059 --> 00:40:09.710 went out there you have to retest. every 00:40:09.710 --> 00:40:12.890 time. it didn't seem very practical to me. 00:40:12.890 --> 00:40:15.260 so what we've done is we've actually 00:40:15.260 --> 00:40:18.290 done an environmental impact statement 00:40:18.290 --> 00:40:21.619 and we're looking at a new pier and but 00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:23.119 before we even get to the new pier 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.099 where the existing rail car is we 00:40:25.099 --> 00:40:26.869 actually have a manufactured gangway 00:40:26.869 --> 00:40:28.819 that was supposed to be put in place 00:40:28.819 --> 00:40:30.710 last week but they couldn't get a barge 00:40:30.710 --> 00:40:33.470 and so now it's scheduled for the 16th. we're 00:40:33.470 --> 00:40:35.150 going to put a gangway here that's about 00:40:35.150 --> 00:40:36.440 90 feet long. 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.359 what's really neat about this is we've 00:40:38.359 --> 00:40:40.819 engineered it so that this gangway, when we go 00:40:40.819 --> 00:40:43.130 to build this pier, this gangway would get 00:40:43.130 --> 00:40:44.839 picked up and it will become this 00:40:44.839 --> 00:40:46.910 gangway right here. so we're trying to 00:40:46.910 --> 00:40:48.890 save some money. and what we're also 00:40:48.890 --> 00:40:52.069 looking at is powering in, making sure 00:40:52.069 --> 00:40:54.799 that all of our piers are in a 00:40:54.799 --> 00:40:57.109 situation where we can power-in so our 00:40:57.109 --> 00:40:59.660 boat will no longer go here and use 00:40:59.660 --> 00:41:02.299 ladders either. you remember Joe Wysocki 00:41:02.299 --> 00:41:05.210 and he died. he died because he fell 00:41:05.210 --> 00:41:07.190 from a ladder and he fell from that ladder and 00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:09.499 he hit his head on a boat and what we 00:41:09.499 --> 00:41:11.809 want to do is try and take the some of 00:41:11.809 --> 00:41:14.390 the degrees of movement out of boats. Island 00:41:14.390 --> 00:41:16.880 Packers can do that because they power in to 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:18.829 a pier but we didn't build most of our 00:41:18.829 --> 00:41:20.690 docks, especially Anacapa and Santa Barbara, 00:41:20.690 --> 00:41:23.960 to be powered-in to. They're not supported 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.089 at the base so we need to rethink how we 00:41:26.089 --> 00:41:28.099 do all of our design so you can power in. 00:41:28.099 --> 00:41:30.499 why do you power in? keeps the boat from going 00:41:30.499 --> 00:41:32.180 up and down as much and then going 00:41:32.180 --> 00:41:34.640 side to side it's a and they can hold it 00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:36.259 steady. well we're going to do the same 00:41:36.259 --> 00:41:38.059 thing with our boats is we're going to 00:41:38.059 --> 00:41:41.299 widen this end so our boat can come 00:41:41.299 --> 00:41:44.839 long side and we can match up to this 00:41:44.839 --> 00:41:46.160 landing right here. 00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:49.069 Now I say it's a landing. our goal is to get rid 00:41:49.069 --> 00:41:51.319 of ladders. we are going to try and get 00:41:51.319 --> 00:41:54.079 rid of ladders this is going this gangway 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.630 will be adjustable so that when Island 00:41:56.630 --> 00:41:59.989 Packers comes in, we will be able to take 00:41:59.989 --> 00:42:01.339 it and match it up with the bow of the 00:42:01.339 --> 00:42:03.829 boat. it'll be a little bit of a gap for 00:42:03.829 --> 00:42:06.319 you to step across but you will always step 00:42:06.319 --> 00:42:09.019 forward and when you are on the island 00:42:09.019 --> 00:42:10.339 and you get back on the boat you're 00:42:10.339 --> 00:42:12.650 going to face forward and step across 00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:14.420 to the boat. no more holding onto a 00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:16.999 ladder and stepping backwards. now it's 00:42:16.999 --> 00:42:18.650 gonna be a long process because we have 00:42:18.650 --> 00:42:22.489 5, uh 4, 5 piers we have to work on. something 00:42:22.489 --> 00:42:24.529 we just have to maybe do some wells but 00:42:24.529 --> 00:42:26.390 in this particular case and this is 00:42:26.390 --> 00:42:28.309 scheduled for construction starting in 00:42:28.309 --> 00:42:31.369 the winter of 2017. so hopefully 00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:33.559 we'll have temporary access hopefully in 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.100 another week and then we'll have this 00:42:36.100 --> 00:42:38.950 with the moving forward and backward, I mean 00:42:38.950 --> 00:42:40.390 never moving backward we're always moving 00:42:40.390 --> 00:42:42.580 forward to get on and off the boat by 00:42:42.580 --> 00:42:49.480 the early 2018... yeah the end of 2017 00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.080 yeah 2017-2018, right, sorry, right. no not right 00:42:53.080 --> 00:42:56.140 right right, not January, right. so all the all the 00:42:56.140 --> 00:42:58.240 environmental documentation is done and 00:42:58.240 --> 00:42:59.860 now we're working on the design phase in 00:42:59.860 --> 00:43:01.810 fact I just want to Denver, took this in 00:43:01.810 --> 00:43:03.160 front of our development advisory board 00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:04.450 and they told us to continue moving 00:43:04.450 --> 00:43:08.890 forward. (murmuring) no, I've actually been given 00:43:08.890 --> 00:43:10.150 the money to move this forward. 00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:14.890 yes. (murmuring) so that's been asked, so I'm gonna go 00:43:14.890 --> 00:43:16.270 back to the engineers and see what we 00:43:16.270 --> 00:43:18.340 can do about it being a dock you know. 00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:19.900 it's it's not as nice a place as 00:43:19.900 --> 00:43:22.480 Prisoners. So as long as it 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:23.980 doesn't drive the price up because I do 00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:25.690 have a fixed price we have to work with 00:43:25.690 --> 00:43:28.570 so be looking for this. 00:43:28.570 --> 00:43:36.400 yes? uh-huh and the end of calendar year 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.360 2017 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:41.890 oh yeah next next week next week this 00:43:41.890 --> 00:43:43.180 boat is going next week that's what they 00:43:43.180 --> 00:43:45.100 promised me but they promised me two 00:43:45.100 --> 00:43:47.020 weeks ago also and before that they 00:43:47.020 --> 00:43:49.420 promised me a few days for that but it 00:43:49.420 --> 00:43:51.940 was about a barge, they couldn't get a barge lined 00:43:51.940 --> 00:43:56.680 up yes 00:43:56.680 --> 00:44:01.450 yeah so that that's really good 00:44:01.450 --> 00:44:02.710 that you noticed that 00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:12.800 Oh 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:17.180 you mean here? right so we've looked at 00:44:17.180 --> 00:44:20.180 all the bathymetry it's all sand and we've 00:44:20.180 --> 00:44:21.890 also made sure that there was no eel grass 00:44:21.890 --> 00:44:24.770 so we'll have no eel grass disturbance 00:44:24.770 --> 00:44:25.910 that's part of the reason why we 00:44:25.910 --> 00:44:28.010 couldn't go back here was because there 00:44:28.010 --> 00:44:30.350 is a rock right here so low tides we had to 00:44:30.350 --> 00:44:34.310 skiff and also what people 00:44:34.310 --> 00:44:36.110 they only think about maintaining this, 00:44:36.110 --> 00:44:39.410 every winter we gotta maintain this and 00:44:39.410 --> 00:44:41.180 so that gets washed away and what other 00:44:41.180 --> 00:44:43.340 folks don't realize this is a 00:44:43.340 --> 00:44:45.800 significant cultural resource. it has 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.450 actually burials, so we want to 00:44:50.450 --> 00:44:51.890 always try to avoid that 00:44:51.890 --> 00:44:54.380 so yes it is a little longer it does 00:44:54.380 --> 00:44:55.880 come out about it comes out to the same 00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.160 of actually just a little bit deeper 00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:00.890 than this but it was the it had to be 00:45:00.890 --> 00:45:02.870 this far-out to get to deep 00:45:02.870 --> 00:45:04.870 enough water for our boats 00:45:05.270 --> 00:45:12.950 yes yes when we proposed steel piles 00:45:12.950 --> 00:45:15.710 also because it would sea level rise 00:45:15.710 --> 00:45:17.900 course as well as I was discussing this 00:45:17.900 --> 00:45:19.940 with our development advisory board is 00:45:19.940 --> 00:45:22.010 you know they want to know what 00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:24.680 BFE was- base flood elevation plus 00:45:24.680 --> 00:45:28.160 2 so here flood elevation here is 9 00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:31.100 and then plus 2 would be 11 I had a plan 00:45:31.100 --> 00:45:33.560 for that. I tell them I don't really care how 00:45:33.560 --> 00:45:35.840 far the water comes up here but I care 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.880 is how high the water is here when it hits 00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.330 this pier. that so we plan for it to come underneath 00:45:41.330 --> 00:45:44.720 underneath it so that was 00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:46.190 important but yeah to be steel pile 00:45:46.190 --> 00:45:48.290 and so if we do have a large sea level rise 00:45:48.290 --> 00:45:49.280 in 50 years 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.290 you can take the piles and raise it. 00:45:51.290 --> 00:45:52.760 so concrete, you can't do that. 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:56.720 alright so this is my next challenge too 00:45:56.720 --> 00:45:59.480 is the scrub jay you know and the concern 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.340 with the scrub jay it really comes down to 00:46:01.340 --> 00:46:04.220 you all know that corvids are very 00:46:04.220 --> 00:46:07.310 susceptible to West Nile virus. now we 00:46:07.310 --> 00:46:08.930 don't have any West Nile Virus on the 00:46:08.930 --> 00:46:12.350 island- yet- but the climate change 00:46:12.350 --> 00:46:14.420 predictions would show we can change the 00:46:14.420 --> 00:46:16.820 climate enough on Santa Cruz that we 00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:18.920 actually would have a a period of 00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.530 incubation for West Nile Virus and we do 00:46:21.530 --> 00:46:23.330 have the mosquito that carries the West 00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:25.160 Nile virus already on the island. 00:46:25.160 --> 00:46:27.349 so now we're trying to figure out so 00:46:27.349 --> 00:46:28.730 what do you do about this bird? 00:46:28.730 --> 00:46:30.619 You know did it exist on all the other 00:46:30.619 --> 00:46:33.710 islands, maybe, maybe not. There's some anecdotal 00:46:33.710 --> 00:46:36.559 information that says that they did and 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.289 if they did, do we put them on the other 00:46:39.289 --> 00:46:41.539 islands? and what are the risks of doing 00:46:41.539 --> 00:46:43.940 that? what will it displace, you know, 00:46:43.940 --> 00:46:45.650 remember that islands aren't do go through 00:46:45.650 --> 00:46:47.450 some theory they call Island 00:46:47.450 --> 00:46:49.789 biogeography where sometimes things come 00:46:49.789 --> 00:46:53.210 and sometimes things go and now we're at a place where 00:46:53.210 --> 00:46:57.470 you let a species actually go but do you 00:46:57.470 --> 00:46:59.299 let it go if it's being human driven 00:46:59.299 --> 00:47:01.520 and if you believe climate change is 00:47:01.520 --> 00:47:04.430 a human-driven force this really complicates it. 00:47:04.430 --> 00:47:06.289 so I'm going to poll a bunch of scientists together 00:47:06.289 --> 00:47:08.450 help me on the science side and then I'm 00:47:08.450 --> 00:47:10.490 going to poll a whole bunch policy people help me with 00:47:10.490 --> 00:47:14.299 what do we do about policies. and this is 00:47:14.299 --> 00:47:16.130 one of my new problems you know for the 00:47:16.130 --> 00:47:18.740 first time I have you on the boat you 00:47:18.740 --> 00:47:20.270 know what this is 00:47:20.270 --> 00:47:23.299 undaria and I'm going to tell you for 00:47:23.299 --> 00:47:25.700 the first time we've now found it 00:47:25.700 --> 00:47:28.730 on Anacapa Island. It's not supposed to be an open 00:47:28.730 --> 00:47:33.500 ocean but we have it. Undaria, that's a any 00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:36.410 of these docks underneath is the seaweed 00:47:36.410 --> 00:47:39.440 that's growing on the docks and so it's 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.049 probably come out from boats and one of 00:47:42.049 --> 00:47:44.240 the concerns were having is where we 00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:46.910 find it on West Anacapa is also a big 00:47:46.910 --> 00:47:51.260 area where there are lobster fishermen so the 00:47:51.260 --> 00:47:53.029 question is you know they're they're 00:47:53.029 --> 00:47:55.130 dropping their pots in this and when they bring 00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:57.319 their pots up and then they're relocating the pots 00:47:57.319 --> 00:47:58.760 are they moving the undaria to 00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.490 different places. now you can't pick on 00:48:01.490 --> 00:48:03.289 just fishermen here because it's on the 00:48:03.289 --> 00:48:05.690 bottom of their boat so we got to figure out how 00:48:05.690 --> 00:48:07.700 do we prevent this from occurring in the 00:48:07.700 --> 00:48:14.210 future. so the big part is how do we keep 00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:15.170 the islands good 00:48:15.170 --> 00:48:18.020 how do we have next the next generation 00:48:18.020 --> 00:48:21.380 love the park like you love the park. as 00:48:21.380 --> 00:48:23.390 we all know there's about 16 million 00:48:23.390 --> 00:48:27.170 people between here and Orange County. 152 00:48:27.170 --> 00:48:29.000 different cultures. 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:30.380 how do we get those 152 00:48:30.380 --> 00:48:32.210 different cultures to say that these 00:48:32.210 --> 00:48:34.339 national parks are as much theirs as they are yours? 00:48:34.339 --> 00:48:38.700 well we start that today. today was a great day. 00:48:38.700 --> 00:48:43.530 we had kids- kids- who were naturalized 00:48:43.530 --> 00:48:45.119 because their parents went through 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.339 citizenship and they became citizens today. 00:48:47.339 --> 00:48:50.369 celebration here today, kids from 13 00:48:50.369 --> 00:48:53.579 different countries. man it was a great feeling to 00:48:53.579 --> 00:48:55.560 see these little kids and we gave them these 00:48:55.560 --> 00:48:57.480 gifts and welcome to their National Park 00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.119 and tell them that you now own a part of 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.849 America, something you didn't own when you 00:49:02.849 --> 00:49:04.890 lived in that other country and so 00:49:04.890 --> 00:49:06.450 take pride in this great place that we 00:49:06.450 --> 00:49:08.190 call America and take pride in your 00:49:08.190 --> 00:49:10.170 national parks so we started today building 00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:12.540 relevancy- reaching out to new citizens- 00:49:12.540 --> 00:49:14.760 saying these places are important, 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.290 this is the fabric of America, our 00:49:16.290 --> 00:49:18.359 national parks, we want you to visit them, 00:49:18.359 --> 00:49:20.310 we want you to enjoy them, because we're 00:49:20.310 --> 00:49:24.990 going to need you to protect them and of course 00:49:24.990 --> 00:49:27.660 there's Channel Islands Live right and 00:49:27.660 --> 00:49:29.609 we keep improving on the technology 00:49:29.609 --> 00:49:30.900 working with the Ventura County Office of 00:49:30.900 --> 00:49:33.089 Office of Education but also with the 00:49:33.089 --> 00:49:34.230 new partner this year 00:49:34.230 --> 00:49:37.200 explore.com or .org 00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:39.300 and explore.org because of their work 00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:43.300 with us and also the ocean cam, you know we've 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.490 now reached 5 million people this year. 5 million! 00:49:47.490 --> 00:49:48.990 How many people don't even know what happens 00:49:48.990 --> 00:49:51.569 in the ocean and this is one way we 00:49:51.569 --> 00:49:53.579 we can then make the park relevant to 00:49:53.579 --> 00:49:55.560 people and show them what's happening 00:49:55.560 --> 00:49:58.050 underwater, talk to them, but also show them 00:49:58.050 --> 00:49:59.490 the ocean cam. you know if you're really 00:49:59.490 --> 00:50:00.900 feeling stressed out, 00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:01.950 there's nothing better than putting on 00:50:01.950 --> 00:50:05.010 that ocean cam and watching the kelp. 00:50:05.010 --> 00:50:06.630 I mean there's only one thing better than 00:50:06.630 --> 00:50:08.160 that and that's the jellyfish of 00:50:08.160 --> 00:50:10.829 Monterey Bay you know but you know, try 00:50:10.829 --> 00:50:12.089 it next time you're stressed out just 00:50:12.089 --> 00:50:16.230 put on some good Enya music 00:50:16.230 --> 00:50:19.680 you know and watch the kelp go back and 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:22.680 forth. part of the naturalization 00:50:22.680 --> 00:50:25.140 ceremony we did a little clip of Kelly 00:50:25.140 --> 00:50:27.630 Moore doing a welcome underwater welcome 00:50:27.630 --> 00:50:29.760 welcoming them as citizens to the United States 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.170 and kids loved it, kids really loved it. So again it's bringing 00:50:34.170 --> 00:50:36.119 it into the classroom and then having 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.819 the kids talk to the diver and seeing 00:50:38.819 --> 00:50:42.540 that it's really it's really there, it's 00:50:42.540 --> 00:50:44.160 not fake, it's not a movie, it's not 00:50:44.160 --> 00:50:47.339 something watching on TV, it's not National Geographic. and 00:50:47.339 --> 00:50:48.810 then you know this afternoon 00:50:48.810 --> 00:50:50.460 even I learned myself and some of you 00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:51.960 may know Sammy Gueurra 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.930 Samwell who works for us you know he was born 00:50:54.930 --> 00:50:56.790 in a Mexican national park and became a 00:50:56.790 --> 00:51:00.960 citizen in 1999, and he works for the national park service, so 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.790 we could talk about him with these kids 00:51:02.790 --> 00:51:04.380 who think you know is there a place for 00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:06.330 me in the National Park Service, well there's Sammy 00:51:06.330 --> 00:51:08.670 and he works for the National Park Service and 00:51:08.670 --> 00:51:11.400 he's from Mexico, and he became a citizen. So 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.140 this, you know, we need to try and recruit 00:51:13.140 --> 00:51:15.599 these these kids and remember that these 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.990 places are theirs. Course, then we had the 00:51:18.990 --> 00:51:21.750 Secretary out this year and Lois Capps, 00:51:21.750 --> 00:51:24.180 Congresswoman Capps, and it was an exciting 00:51:24.180 --> 00:51:25.859 day too because when we took these 00:51:25.859 --> 00:51:28.619 these kids out, we took like 90 kids out 00:51:28.619 --> 00:51:30.510 that day, it couldn't have been more 00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:32.130 perfect they call it management weather 00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:33.780 I guess because I was on the boat it was 00:51:33.780 --> 00:51:35.310 flat as can be. 00:51:35.310 --> 00:51:37.800 we pull into Prisoner's and there's a humpback 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.089 mom and calf had to turn the boat off she 00:51:42.089 --> 00:51:44.400 brought the calf right up to the boat and 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:46.260 this silly little sea lion didn't like 00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:48.119 all the attention so he dived down, gets a 00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.339 mouthful of fish, pops his head up and 00:51:50.339 --> 00:51:52.109 starts looking around and then the 00:51:52.109 --> 00:51:54.660 dolphins come in on cue and then as soon 00:51:54.660 --> 00:51:56.580 as we get onto shore you know the 00:51:56.580 --> 00:51:58.230 Secretary is asking the kids about the 00:51:58.230 --> 00:52:00.210 fox and what happens a fox comes 00:52:00.210 --> 00:52:03.660 running out. so it was like wow we couldn't 00:52:03.660 --> 00:52:05.730 make this any better you know it was 00:52:05.730 --> 00:52:09.420 really great but you know that that's 00:52:09.420 --> 00:52:11.640 what's so amazing about this park is you know 00:52:11.640 --> 00:52:14.580 how close we are to I guess we call it 00:52:14.580 --> 00:52:17.820 civilization, but at least urbanization, and 00:52:17.820 --> 00:52:19.710 and how we can get away and we can go 00:52:19.710 --> 00:52:23.190 have this Serengeti experience out here in our 00:52:23.190 --> 00:52:25.050 backyard but it's all because you guys 00:52:25.050 --> 00:52:26.010 all care 00:52:26.010 --> 00:52:30.390 it really is good you all care. and then 00:52:30.390 --> 00:52:32.520 we got the the old bunkhouse on Santa 00:52:32.520 --> 00:52:35.010 Rosa which is now a field station for Cal 00:52:35.010 --> 00:52:38.010 State Channel Islands and so this past 00:52:38.010 --> 00:52:41.010 year there's a sign, you know they had over 00:52:41.010 --> 00:52:44.520 3,500 students nights out there. bringing 00:52:44.520 --> 00:52:46.530 students and as you may know that Cal 00:52:46.530 --> 00:52:47.970 State Channel Islands is a 00:52:47.970 --> 00:52:50.310 Hispanic-serving institution, bringing 00:52:50.310 --> 00:52:51.750 students out here that have never been in a 00:52:51.750 --> 00:52:54.900 national park, never been on a boat, never 00:52:54.900 --> 00:52:56.940 been on an island and spent the night. 00:52:56.940 --> 00:52:59.550 and I was out there the other, well a few 00:52:59.550 --> 00:53:00.540 months ago with the Director of the 00:53:00.540 --> 00:53:02.640 National Park Service when we were delisting the 00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:04.539 fox we went on a little hike 00:53:04.539 --> 00:53:06.189 and there was one of the students out 00:53:06.189 --> 00:53:09.579 there and she had brought her sister and she was planning on 00:53:09.579 --> 00:53:11.709 bringing her parents and they had never been 00:53:11.709 --> 00:53:15.009 in a national park before and was this is great, 00:53:15.009 --> 00:53:19.299 Where you from? Oxnard. well you know so 00:53:19.299 --> 00:53:21.309 we are changing lives and now she sees 00:53:21.309 --> 00:53:23.619 this is this is my home and I'm gonna 00:53:23.619 --> 00:53:25.900 bring my friends and I'm gonna bring my family and it was 00:53:25.900 --> 00:53:27.309 great. what was she doing? She was doing 00:53:27.309 --> 00:53:29.949 photo monitoring, hiked out to Lobo Canyon 00:53:29.949 --> 00:53:32.319 with her sister to take photographs, report 00:53:32.319 --> 00:53:35.619 some data, things like that. I just think it's great that we're 00:53:35.619 --> 00:53:36.789 changing their lives 00:53:36.789 --> 00:53:39.279 they were given a national award for the 00:53:39.279 --> 00:53:42.369 National Biological Stations 00:53:42.369 --> 00:53:45.579 Association as meeting diversity goals 00:53:45.579 --> 00:53:47.679 in the most diverse program. they've only 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:49.989 been in the program for 2 years. so they're 00:53:49.989 --> 00:53:52.719 doing a really great job at Cal State. now how 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:53.979 do you get involved, you get involved with 00:53:53.979 --> 00:53:55.269 people like Channel Islands Park Foundation 00:53:55.269 --> 00:53:58.359 this is our nonprofit arm of the park 00:53:58.359 --> 00:54:00.759 and they're the ones who can ask for 00:54:00.759 --> 00:54:02.919 money and then have projects up and they do 00:54:02.919 --> 00:54:05.349 have a website so you can go to Channel 00:54:05.349 --> 00:54:07.390 Islands Park Foundation. I'm not allowed 00:54:07.390 --> 00:54:09.159 to ask you for money I can just tell you how 00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:12.669 much money I need but the other big 00:54:12.669 --> 00:54:14.049 thing is I want you to find your park 00:54:14.049 --> 00:54:16.299 and when you find your park I want you 00:54:16.299 --> 00:54:18.339 to do a couple things actually three. I 00:54:18.339 --> 00:54:20.979 want you to learn something new, I want 00:54:20.979 --> 00:54:23.739 you to tell us how we are doing, and I 00:54:23.739 --> 00:54:25.509 want you to ask how you can help. 00:54:25.509 --> 00:54:27.369 because we're going to need your help we're going to 00:54:27.369 --> 00:54:28.479 need your help and we're gonna need your 00:54:28.479 --> 00:54:30.099 kid's help and we're going to need their kid's help 00:54:30.099 --> 00:54:31.779 because if we want to keep our national 00:54:31.779 --> 00:54:34.299 parks strong we got to believe that our 00:54:34.299 --> 00:54:35.829 national parks are important for us as 00:54:35.829 --> 00:54:38.679 people. so with that, let me thank you all for 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.079 coming and I will stay here and answer 00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:42.669 as many questions as you want until 00:54:42.669 --> 00:54:44.619 Bryson kicks me out of the room but I am the 00:54:44.619 --> 00:54:46.299 boss so maybe I get to stay a little longer. 00:54:46.299 --> 00:54:52.190 alright thanks everybody! (clapping) 00:54:52.190 --> 00:54:58.819 there we go now the hard part. in the 00:54:58.819 --> 00:55:01.160 10-year plan or the new plan is there 00:55:01.160 --> 00:55:04.190 any plan for handicapped access to Santa 00:55:04.190 --> 00:55:07.520 Rosa or other islands? ok so Santa 00:55:07.520 --> 00:55:09.109 Rosa, so the question was, did everybody 00:55:09.109 --> 00:55:11.180 hear the question, handicap access? 00:55:11.180 --> 00:55:13.819 ok so the 10-year plan is with the GMP 00:55:13.819 --> 00:55:16.310 (General Management Plan) used to be, now they're 00:55:16.310 --> 00:55:17.690 for your phones 00:55:17.690 --> 00:55:20.000 ok and so that's part of the reason why 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.490 we're doing the Scorpion Pier the way it is so it 00:55:22.490 --> 00:55:25.640 can accommodate a wheelchair, or you know 00:55:25.640 --> 00:55:29.720 actually, a group out of San Francisco 00:55:29.720 --> 00:55:33.109 can't think of their name, but the last 2 00:55:33.109 --> 00:55:35.690 years they have taken out a couple 00:55:35.690 --> 00:55:40.130 paraplegics, quadriplegics and some blind 00:55:40.130 --> 00:55:43.130 individuals and actually have them 00:55:43.130 --> 00:55:45.740 crossing the threshold and this year 00:55:45.740 --> 00:55:48.140 they skiffed them to shore and those folks had a 00:55:48.140 --> 00:55:50.450 great time so you know what I decided we 00:55:50.450 --> 00:55:53.540 gotta buy one of these water over the 00:55:53.540 --> 00:55:55.609 sand wheelchairs so now we have bought one 00:55:55.609 --> 00:55:56.780 of those, we are going to buy a couple more, 00:55:56.780 --> 00:55:59.030 station them out there because at these 00:55:59.030 --> 00:56:00.440 travels, they're called Traveling Companions, 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.000 so if Traveling Companions is going to work with 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.040 us to help get folks that have 00:56:04.040 --> 00:56:06.020 disabilities and challenges out there we 00:56:06.020 --> 00:56:08.300 need to come halfway with them. Rosa 00:56:08.300 --> 00:56:10.579 of course you can get there by air. 00:56:10.579 --> 00:56:13.190 you also know we've also doing an 00:56:13.190 --> 00:56:15.470 experiment you can go to San Miguel by 00:56:15.470 --> 00:56:16.490 air now too. 00:56:16.490 --> 00:56:18.680 it's a little bit pricey to tell you the 00:56:18.680 --> 00:56:21.140 truth but if you fill the airplane it 00:56:21.140 --> 00:56:23.720 seems pretty reasonable but you can go 00:56:23.720 --> 00:56:25.400 to San Miguel you can fly there instead of going by 00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:29.359 boat. but on Santa Rosa you know we tried 00:56:29.359 --> 00:56:31.880 with a dock with a crane at the end of 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.300 the dock we had that pod and have you 00:56:35.300 --> 00:56:36.530 ever thought it looked like a spacecraft 00:56:36.530 --> 00:56:37.880 that was sitting there. 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.160 well when we have bought that thing the 00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:43.670 either nobody asked or the vendor never 00:56:43.670 --> 00:56:48.260 told us. they have a lifespan really a lifespan. 00:56:48.260 --> 00:56:51.470 we kept it covered and protect it 00:56:51.470 --> 00:56:52.880 they also had annual maintenance that was 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.589 about 1-2,000 dollars a year of 00:56:54.589 --> 00:56:56.480 annual maintenance and then after seven 00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.630 years you had to buy a new pod. that was a little 00:56:59.630 --> 00:57:02.450 frustrating so you know so the best we 00:57:02.450 --> 00:57:04.040 can do right now is aircraft until it's 00:57:04.040 --> 00:57:05.700 time to modify that pier in some way 00:57:05.700 --> 00:57:08.610 so it'll always be tough and I'm just not sold 00:57:08.610 --> 00:57:12.660 that the pod idea is going to work and 00:57:12.660 --> 00:57:15.540 most folks with challenges they want 00:57:15.540 --> 00:57:16.920 to have their own, they want to be under 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.220 their own control, so even with the gangway 00:57:20.220 --> 00:57:24.150 approach at Scorpion the slopes, most 00:57:24.150 --> 00:57:25.680 of the time, are going to be at the right 00:57:25.680 --> 00:57:27.750 angles for them to wheel chairs up 00:57:27.750 --> 00:57:29.490 themselves but there will be a couple times 00:57:29.490 --> 00:57:31.710 on extreme lows, you know they're in the 00:57:31.710 --> 00:57:33.390 king tide periods we're gonna have to 00:57:33.390 --> 00:57:37.590 help post. so Rosa by air for now I 00:57:37.590 --> 00:57:39.240 put enough money in that pier for right now I'm 00:57:39.240 --> 00:57:43.530 going to focus on Scorpion. yeah? 00:57:43.530 --> 00:57:46.020 okay Bryson you take over, I'll just... 00:57:46.020 --> 00:57:47.520 try to answer the questions. you've got 00:57:47.520 --> 00:57:50.880 Island Packers yes and you have Channel 00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.130 Islands Aviation that fly to 00:57:53.130 --> 00:57:56.010 the the islands right why can't you set 00:57:56.010 --> 00:57:58.740 up a program of having private pilot's 00:57:58.740 --> 00:58:02.460 besides Channel Islands maybe a limited 00:58:02.460 --> 00:58:04.710 number each week or something like that 00:58:04.710 --> 00:58:07.050 fly to the islands? yeah so typically 00:58:07.050 --> 00:58:09.270 aircraft delivery is is prohibited in 00:58:09.270 --> 00:58:11.430 national parks and so if you're doing that as 00:58:11.430 --> 00:58:12.960 a commercial enterprise you have to come under 00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:16.050 concessions operations. I will tell 00:58:16.050 --> 00:58:17.820 you that if you are pilot and if 00:58:17.820 --> 00:58:19.140 you are interested in doing something 00:58:19.140 --> 00:58:22.470 like that we will have to fly a new 00:58:22.470 --> 00:58:24.990 perspectives in the next year or two 00:58:24.990 --> 00:58:28.140 look for other vendors if you're interested but it 00:58:28.140 --> 00:58:29.580 is that we are prohibited there's 00:58:29.580 --> 00:58:33.390 there's only one I know of airstrip in a 00:58:33.390 --> 00:58:35.370 national park where private pilots are 00:58:35.370 --> 00:58:38.070 allowed to land that's technically in the park 00:58:38.070 --> 00:58:41.670 and on park property and that's Grand 00:58:41.670 --> 00:58:45.360 Tetons there's a whole airport actually. and there's other places in 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:47.250 Alaska but in Alaska, Congress allowed it 00:58:47.250 --> 00:58:51.060 they said access by aircraft was allowed 00:58:51.060 --> 00:58:53.460 so one thing to keep in mind with national 00:58:53.460 --> 00:58:56.010 parks is generally things are prohibited 00:58:56.010 --> 00:58:58.860 unless Congress said it was okay and that's 00:58:58.860 --> 00:59:00.000 very different from other land management 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.390 agencies. people always ask why can't you hunt 00:59:03.390 --> 00:59:05.400 in the national park. Well it's because 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:06.330 Congress didn't say you could. 00:59:06.330 --> 00:59:14.550 yes? Bryson's in charge of the mic. I am aware 00:59:14.550 --> 00:59:17.400 that Island Packers has been negotiating 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:18.980 with the Santa Barbara Harbor 00:59:18.980 --> 00:59:21.650 District to try to run boats out of there. 00:59:21.650 --> 00:59:24.619 the closest point to the islands would 00:59:24.619 --> 00:59:27.020 probably be Prisoners Harbor. were there 00:59:27.020 --> 00:59:30.800 any plans to perhaps build a campground 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.830 and a ranger facility at Prisoner's? 00:59:33.830 --> 00:59:35.660 yes so in the General Management Plan there 00:59:35.660 --> 00:59:38.090 is a small campground and campground 00:59:38.090 --> 00:59:39.859 that is proposed as you go up the Navy 00:59:39.859 --> 00:59:41.270 Road and then you make that first turn, 00:59:41.270 --> 00:59:42.920 that bench that's right there, that's 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.230 where we proposed it but we also proposed to 00:59:45.230 --> 00:59:48.350 build some ranger housing so as you go 00:59:48.350 --> 00:59:50.150 across the creek and you turn right 00:59:50.150 --> 00:59:52.490 down the well road is that as we've been 00:59:52.490 --> 00:59:54.650 removing the eucalyptus as we found out it's a 00:59:54.650 --> 00:59:56.960 lot flatter up there than we thought but 00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:58.250 we also found out there's a lot of 00:59:58.250 --> 01:00:00.109 archaeology up there. we're gonna have to figure 01:00:00.109 --> 01:00:01.520 out how to protect that because you know 01:00:01.520 --> 01:00:04.160 that was a known village site so yes in our 01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:07.010 plan and if you it is on our website you 01:00:07.010 --> 01:00:09.140 can see what our plans with that area 01:00:09.140 --> 01:00:11.240 but most of the public want to see it be not 01:00:11.240 --> 01:00:14.359 developed one like Scorpion or Santa Rosa 01:00:14.359 --> 01:00:20.660 they want to see it more primitive. 01:00:20.660 --> 01:00:24.200 Russell, I know there's in the plan a 01:00:24.200 --> 01:00:26.840 different type of concession for kayakers 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:30.170 and in the future but also like the 01:00:30.170 --> 01:00:32.420 Truth Aquatics concession they have 01:00:32.420 --> 01:00:34.970 there where they, is that going to be kept in 01:00:34.970 --> 01:00:39.020 serviced by a boat being able to go 01:00:39.020 --> 01:00:41.390 ashore but they stay on the boat? 01:00:41.390 --> 01:00:45.800 thanks for the gnarly question. so I'm so 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:47.900 there's only one so there's concession 01:00:47.900 --> 01:00:50.330 and there's commercial use authorization 01:00:50.330 --> 01:00:52.700 ok and what makes the difference is the 01:00:52.700 --> 01:00:54.290 amount of money they make. 01:00:54.290 --> 01:00:57.260 ok so concessions when we award a 01:00:57.260 --> 01:00:59.540 contract they pay the park service or the 01:00:59.540 --> 01:01:02.570 government a franchise fee. A commercial use 01:01:02.570 --> 01:01:04.430 authorization, so if you wanted to come and 01:01:04.430 --> 01:01:07.850 say I want to lead guided hikes I'm an 01:01:07.850 --> 01:01:10.820 outfitter I would I would charge you a 01:01:10.820 --> 01:01:13.880 annual fee maybe something like a couple 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:15.440 thousand dollars you know we figure out 01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.410 what the price is and then you're not 01:01:18.410 --> 01:01:22.130 bound by any federal labor laws. a 01:01:22.130 --> 01:01:24.020 concessioner is bound by federal labor 01:01:24.020 --> 01:01:28.430 laws so they have to pay Davis-Bacon 01:01:28.430 --> 01:01:30.350 wages they got to do all these other 01:01:30.350 --> 01:01:32.200 things that they didn't have to do 01:01:32.200 --> 01:01:35.109 if you were a commercial use opearator so there's 01:01:35.109 --> 01:01:36.670 no some differences in the type of 01:01:36.670 --> 01:01:38.650 licenses you get and the difference is 01:01:38.650 --> 01:01:40.990 whether you're doing work if you're 01:01:40.990 --> 01:01:43.089 doing work in the park and you're 01:01:43.089 --> 01:01:46.270 required to be in the park and have 01:01:46.270 --> 01:01:48.190 facilities in the park vs you're doing 01:01:48.190 --> 01:01:50.560 work that's incidental to the park so in 01:01:50.560 --> 01:01:53.020 the old kayaking way we looked at it is 01:01:53.020 --> 01:01:55.329 you can do all the kayak business 01:01:55.329 --> 01:01:58.119 outside and in fact you used to have to 01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.160 carry all the kayaks on Island Packers 01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:02.589 right and then you can do the business 01:02:02.589 --> 01:02:04.180 and then when you were done put them back 01:02:04.180 --> 01:02:05.770 on Island Packers take them out, so that's 01:02:05.770 --> 01:02:07.720 incidental to the park so that would be 01:02:07.720 --> 01:02:09.849 a commercial use authorization but what we 01:02:09.849 --> 01:02:12.339 found over time with kayaking is it 01:02:12.339 --> 01:02:14.079 was having an inconvenience to the day 01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.030 use because it was really tying up the 01:02:16.030 --> 01:02:17.410 boat for long periods of time where they 01:02:17.410 --> 01:02:19.570 were staging kayaks so we allowed them to 01:02:19.570 --> 01:02:21.670 start staging kayaks at Scorpion. 01:02:21.670 --> 01:02:24.099 well then that became more popular and 01:02:24.099 --> 01:02:25.420 then we had to go through a commercial use 01:02:25.420 --> 01:02:28.300 authorization that required competition and 01:02:28.300 --> 01:02:29.619 then when we start looking at their books 01:02:29.619 --> 01:02:31.270 every year they were starting to meet 01:02:31.270 --> 01:02:32.619 the threshold that was set by the 01:02:32.619 --> 01:02:35.230 concessions law so in the General 01:02:35.230 --> 01:02:36.550 Management Plan we said we're going to 01:02:36.550 --> 01:02:39.160 move kayaking from at Scorpion 01:02:39.160 --> 01:02:41.560 to a concessions operation it will be awarded 01:02:41.560 --> 01:02:43.569 to one company. that company should be 01:02:43.569 --> 01:02:45.819 announced in December. so starting next 01:02:45.819 --> 01:02:47.859 year it'll be one company operating out 01:02:47.859 --> 01:02:49.420 of there and then they'll be giving the park a 01:02:49.420 --> 01:02:52.839 franchise you know instead of $2,000 01:02:52.839 --> 01:02:54.880 or $3,000 check at the beginning of the year. 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.400 yeah they're moving a lot of people, 01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.349 they're kayaking they're giving great 01:02:59.349 --> 01:03:01.569 experiences that are out there so when 01:03:01.569 --> 01:03:03.160 it comes to Truth Aquatics it's a little 01:03:03.160 --> 01:03:05.530 bit tougher because at Truth Aquatics 01:03:05.530 --> 01:03:08.079 what they specialize is multi-day parties 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:10.329 right and but they want the advantage of 01:03:10.329 --> 01:03:11.319 going to the island. 01:03:11.319 --> 01:03:15.220 well Island Packers does have the sole 01:03:15.220 --> 01:03:17.619 landing rights because they're the 01:03:17.619 --> 01:03:21.130 concessionaire so where we have allowed 01:03:21.130 --> 01:03:23.410 Truth Aquatics to land is with where 01:03:23.410 --> 01:03:25.060 there's an agreement with Island Packers 01:03:25.060 --> 01:03:27.190 that they're not competing with them for 01:03:27.190 --> 01:03:30.010 users so again since they're a multi-day 01:03:30.010 --> 01:03:32.230 operation and they're focusing on the 01:03:32.230 --> 01:03:35.140 outer islands Island Packers have said 01:03:35.140 --> 01:03:38.170 so far that's okay Island Packers could say 01:03:38.170 --> 01:03:40.750 that's not okay and I would have to live 01:03:40.750 --> 01:03:43.450 up to the contract and so you can't 01:03:43.450 --> 01:03:44.770 land if you want to land. 01:03:44.770 --> 01:03:46.270 so it became an issue at Scorpion 01:03:46.270 --> 01:03:51.760 because everybody wants to go to Scorpion 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:53.710 And Anacapa that's true and so there was 01:03:53.710 --> 01:03:57.220 some there was some actually shipping 01:03:57.220 --> 01:04:00.670 people from a Truth boat to Island Packers 01:04:00.670 --> 01:04:03.730 now but that that has to all be 01:04:03.730 --> 01:04:05.890 orchestrated and that doesn't usually work 01:04:05.890 --> 01:04:08.080 on either of their schedules very well so 01:04:08.080 --> 01:04:09.220 we're going to see how that plays out 01:04:09.220 --> 01:04:11.110 in the future but it is an exclusive 01:04:11.110 --> 01:04:14.020 contract, it was open for bid, and Island 01:04:14.020 --> 01:04:16.330 Packers did win that, well, I'll tell you, Island Packers 01:04:16.330 --> 01:04:20.020 is the only one that bid, so if 01:04:20.020 --> 01:04:21.700 you all been out there Island Packers does a 01:04:21.700 --> 01:04:24.100 remarkable job and I will tell you if 01:04:24.100 --> 01:04:25.030 you're on Truth and you're on a 01:04:25.030 --> 01:04:27.820 multi-day they do a great job too you 01:04:27.820 --> 01:04:31.000 know we really got great partners, folks, 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.340 we've gotten really good partner that 01:04:33.340 --> 01:04:34.720 are out there it's great that so many 01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:37.480 people love the islands. we have time for 01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:42.460 two more questions. I was wondering is 01:04:42.460 --> 01:04:45.280 the bat native to the islands do we have 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.530 any bats on the islands? yeah we do we have a 01:04:47.530 --> 01:04:49.360 couple pieces of bat maybe more but 01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:50.770 you're probably thinking of the Townsend 01:04:50.770 --> 01:04:52.000 big-eared bat. well the 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.160 mosquitoes I'm thinking if you've got 01:04:54.160 --> 01:04:56.500 the mosquito problem with the carrying 01:04:56.500 --> 01:04:58.780 the West Nile disease if you have the 01:04:58.780 --> 01:05:01.780 bat that might limit it eliminate them. it would help 01:05:01.780 --> 01:05:03.100 keep them down that's for sure 01:05:03.100 --> 01:05:05.860 yeah we do have bats. ok. you know most of 01:05:05.860 --> 01:05:07.300 the time you you hear about the Townsend 01:05:07.300 --> 01:05:09.370 big-eared bats because we have one of the 01:05:09.370 --> 01:05:11.290 only maternity colonies. 01:05:11.290 --> 01:05:13.720 unfortunately in a historic building. 01:05:13.720 --> 01:05:17.020 which, you know, it's like now how do we 01:05:17.020 --> 01:05:18.610 manage this building and protect it, we 01:05:18.610 --> 01:05:20.650 got to open the door so the bats can get 01:05:20.650 --> 01:05:22.780 them but you know that's that's part of 01:05:22.780 --> 01:05:24.160 that balance of natural and cultural 01:05:24.160 --> 01:05:26.110 resources. so if you've ever gone to the 01:05:26.110 --> 01:05:28.990 visitor center at Scorpion and you can 01:05:28.990 --> 01:05:30.700 see there's the bakery behind it but you 01:05:30.700 --> 01:05:32.290 always wonder why can't I go back to the 01:05:32.290 --> 01:05:34.180 bakery why they got it fenced-off, that's 01:05:34.180 --> 01:05:36.100 usually because the bats are there and then when the 01:05:36.100 --> 01:05:37.300 bats aren't there then we let you go 01:05:37.300 --> 01:05:37.960 look at it. 01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:40.660 yeah we wish we could replicate that 01:05:40.660 --> 01:05:43.150 habitat but it's it appears that the 01:05:43.150 --> 01:05:44.650 temperature is just right for that 01:05:44.650 --> 01:05:47.470 maternity colony and and it is one of the 01:05:47.470 --> 01:05:49.570 only maternity colonies of the Townsend 01:05:49.570 --> 01:05:53.380 big ear bat. you know that it's nice 01:05:53.380 --> 01:05:54.880 having all these unique things until 01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:56.280 you're the manager 01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:58.830 and then it really adds some big 01:05:58.830 --> 01:05:59.910 challenges. 01:05:59.910 --> 01:06:02.250 alright we have time for our final 01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:07.470 question any final questions for tonight? 01:06:07.470 --> 01:06:19.129 alright well right thank you very much.