Terry: Did you see those little tokens they had in those days for like. . .
Betty: Oh, yes.
Terry: For meat, and milk. . .
Betty: Yeah. And sugar. . . and butter.
Terry: Yeah. And did you crush the cans and stuff?
Betty: Oh, yes.
Terry: And save all your grease and turned it in?
Betty: Saved all your grease and turned it in, or used it.
NW: Huh. What'd you save the grease for?
Betty: Well, along before the war effort they used it some way.
NW: In ah. . . in ah rations or something? Field rations?
Betty: No, I think it was a manufacturer or building. . .
Terry: It was for wheels and stuff. . .
Betty: Yeah, stuff that they needed for their machines. . .
Terry: For grease.
NW: Oh. Okay.
Terry: I remember I always wanted a. . . a wagon, and I had to get a wooden wagon with wooden wheels, cause they weren't making rubber wheels for toys. . .
Betty: Oh, yes! Nothing was ever. . .
Terry: Remember that? And it squeaked and it was awful, and I was embarrassed about it.
Betty: (laughs) Oh, yes! Nothing was rubber. All the rubber went to the war effort.
Terry: Um hum.
Betty: All the rubber.
Terry: And copper, too, boy!
Betty: Copper. Oh, yes!
Terry: Couldn't get it.
Betty: And gasoline was strictly rationed.
Terry: Yeah.
Betty: When you lived, like we did, way out ah. . . away from time, why you got more gas stamps than if you lived in town.
NW: Really?
Betty: Cause it was impossible to walk from out here.
Terry: Ah huh.
Betty: And most of our ah. . . power was horse power then. We didn't have tractors.
Terry: What kind of horses did you have?
Betty: Percheron.
Terry: Really? Percherons? Oh. . .
Betty: Great big work horses. . .
Terry:. . . so sweet!
Betty: Really. Course we'd had work horses all my life, because that was in the days before everybody had a tractor. So I was in college, and came home the first summer, and my father had bought a little Ford tractor, and that was the first time I'd ever. . . ever seen a tractor working on the ranch.
Terry: Sure changed things, didn't it?
Betty: Oh, yeah!
Terry: It upped the pace.
Betty: I don't know if it was for the better. . .
Terry: That's right.
Betty: It upped the pace—you had to hurry.
Terry: Yeah. Yeah. Previous, it was as fast as the horse.
Betty: Fast as the horse could go. . .
Terry: And that's it.
Betty: And night came, why you had to quit, cause the horse had to have his rest. And. . .
Terry: Right.
Betty: Didn't get it all done, it'd be there tomorrow.
Terry: Yep!
Betty: Be nice to go back to that. (Laughs)