BH: What was a day like? When you would go up and spend time with him?
JW: Oh, he would usually wake me up before daylight to go get the horses. The horses were up what we called Horse Canyon—up behind, and we'd usually have a belled mare so we'd know where they were, and I'd go out and bring the horses in, and have breakfast. Mom would have breakfast ready—and uh, then it would depend on where we were going to. If we were going over to Schmidt's to get supplies, he had supplies brought there from Walsenburg and Gardner.
And that was over Medano Pass and down Buff Creek Trail on the other side—it was over the Buff Creek Trail, not over Medano Pass itself, down along that ditch—and um, that would take all day. If we were going to ride any particular spot—we would usually get some kind of a sandwich or something and put in the saddle pocket, and then we would go on and go to Spring Crick or where—they were all day rides. And as I told you earlier, sometimes if we had to stay the night down at the Medano, why we would do that. We'd stay over—George White had a cabin over on Sand Creek. And it was open—all the cabins were open, and we could stay at his place.